Kingman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It's in the states. I have one that I put the first 59 through today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks like it has similar lines and layout as the Grand Power Xcal, does it have a browning tilt type barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Standard recoil system. Not a rotating barrel. The ergonomics are a bit different than the Grand Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks Kingman, looking forward to your thoughts once you get more rounds down range and how it compares to the Grand Power Xcal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'm curious too. Looks like a soft shooting gun from the vids. any idea the trigger pull weights on the DA and SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ok, so this may or may not be long winded depending on your reading style.... Ok initial thoughts. Pulled the gun out of the box and it was dirty. It looked like it had definitely been fired, so I asked some questions. It turns out that all Pro Xt have a hand fitted barrel. So I pulled it apart and you can see where it was filed on the back edge of the barrel hood. After it is fitted it is test fired at the factory with at least one full magazine to ensure that everything is proper. It appears that they test and sight in with 115gr bullets as the Atlantic Arms ammo I initially tested with was dead center. Trigger feels about 7 DA and around 3 SA. The DA is very smooth and does not stack at all. The DA pull is a bit shorter than I expected. The SA seems to have a short reset system in it. The reset is about 1/8" and stops with very little pre travel or over travel. I am betting the springs will loosen a bit as the more I played with it the better it feels. The SA is one of the best of the type I have felt out of the box, save the custom built DA/SA guns that are popular right now. The weight of the gun is 34 ounces. This is interesting, as it is between the polymer guns and the solid steel guns that are both popular right now. They have used an aluminum frame on this gun in order to get the weight where the transition is fast, but have some to help soak up recoil. I immediately am thinking production optics possible gun right here. It seems to work, this gun is almost as soft as my CTS, both of my Xcal are out right now so I can't put them in comparison, but man this gun is flat. I don't know how they did it, but if you watch the video it is not moving much. The safety and slide stop are interesting as well. The safety when raised also acts as a decocker. This may be a plus for those that don't like manually lowering a hammer. The slide stop and safety make a huge ledge to rest your thumb on. This is VERY high, higher than the GP sport paddles and higher than a CZ safety. This is an interesting feel in and of itself. The frame also has a nice textured area built in from the factory for your support hand's thumb to rest on. Again attention is in the details. The sights from the factory are very good as well. The front is a fiber optic, the rear is adjustable. They sit up a bit higher than on most guns. It sort of shocked me looking at it, but it really is quite nice. They seemed to be sighted in with 115gr bullets from the factory. They were a bit off with my 147gr loads at 130PF. The accuracy is right on for a game gun. I didn't bag the gun, but was able to easily start smacking the plate rack at 25 yards without much work. The system works well together. I will certainly bag it when the range isn't so busy. It came with 5 mags in the box. This shocked me. I have never opened a box to see that many magazines. When I asked, it seemed the idea was that it comes ready to go to a match. Down Sides: The factory grip was pretty slick, even with the pressed in texture it was not great. So I took the soldering iron to the plastic grip. Overall it was easy to create panels above the built in thumb rest for the offhand, and then stipple heavily all of the bordered area where the pressed in checkering was. These grips are available Eagle's website if I messed up, but it turned out really nice. It almost looked like it was meant to be that way. The magazine release is the other point I did not care for. I have pretty good size hands. I can hit the mag release on a 2011 without repositioning a gun. I could not hit the mag release on this gun without adjusting the gun in my grip. It is easy to do, but still by making it just a bit longer it would be much simpler. I did bring this to the attention of the folks from Bersa. I know they are looking for a solution at this point in time. I was also told in Argentina they have had some in the past. Big Plus: At least one store posted them online for $799. MSRP is a bit higher, but we all know what that really means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Great info thanks, where are these being sold at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I second, great info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I handled one of the regular 9 Pro's at Cabelas a few weeks ago, and was very impressed by the SA, DA, and reset of the trigger, and the ergos. Edited December 14, 2015 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmBeach1 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 After handling and shooting one of the regular Pros, went ahead and ordered one of XT's from Davidisons. They had them in stock, and from what I have found, were the least expensive. Not sure if I will have before the New Years holiday. Will report back once received and after some range time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Congrats. I have mine with me visiting in Orlando if you wanted to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmBeach1 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Congrats. I have mine with me visiting in Orlando if you wanted to shoot. Thanks for the offer. Mine was shipped on Wednesday, so should have on Monday. Hope you are enjoying your time in Orlando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 On our way home. We've been in SC for a few hours. I hate 95 through here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Picked up mine today, haven't got it to the range yet but the trigger is really nice. My trigger is registering 2.10 SA and 7lbs DA. I like the way it feels in my hand, but the mag release is somewhat flush, small and a bit hard to reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmBeach1 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Picked up mine today, haven't got it to the range yet but the trigger is really nice. My trigger is registering 2.10 SA and 7lbs DA. I like the way it feels in my hand, but the mag release is somewhat flush, small and a bit hard to reach. Picked mine up on Monday. Like you, haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Glad I saw Kingmans post about his arriving dirty, as mine was very dirty. If I hadn't read his post, would have been on its way back to Davidsons. Hope at some point there is a better mag release, as I agree, a bit small and flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Does it come with 4 or 5 mags? DAvidsons is listing it with only 1 mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mine came with 5 mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmBeach1 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mine came with 5 mags. Yup, 5 mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Conversation has already been had about the mag release. I agree. It's the only downside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Shot mine today... I'm liking it, very accurate, the recoil is similar to the Stock 3 I have. I agree with Kingman about the grips, they are slick. A bit more take up on the SA portion of the trigger than I'm used to but I think it won't be an issue once I get more trigger time with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonman108 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 How does accuracy and recoil compare with other 5 inch guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I would say that it recoils a little bit more than my Grand Power X-cal, about the same as the Stock 3 Xtreme and less than my Shadow custom. Accuracy wise for me, about the same as the Grand Power, Shadow Custom and a bit better than the Stock3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonman108 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Wow, ok i think i am sold considering the trigger weight and it comes with 5 mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 For the price any way you look at it, I it's a good deal. Out of the box it's ready to run, but take in consideration the decocker... some might not like it and it doesn't spring back down so you can fire it double action the next shot. You have to manually lower the lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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