jkrispies Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) RCBS does make that that already, called a Lube Die. It is a hollow bodied decapping die with different sized felt inserts that are saturated with lube so you decap and lube before sizing. They came out with this when they started doing their progressive presses. Neal in AZ How well does the Lube Die work? I'm starting to get some ideas for my 550... Station 1 Lube Die Station 2 Decapper/Sizer Station 3 Trimmer Retumble to remove the lube while I swap the toolhead, add primers and powder, and go right into loading. Damn, I'm never gonna get my new shotgun if I keep thinking up ways to spend money...... Edited December 12, 2015 by jkrispies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 RCBS does make that that already, called a Lube Die. It is a hollow bodied decapping die with different sized felt inserts that are saturated with lube so you decap and lube before sizing. They came out with this when they started doing their progressive presses. Neal in AZ Most of the reviews I've read were negative on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) And for those wanting a Dillon bullet feeder. Didn't we learn that they won't make one because of some laws about being an ammo manufacturer or something like that? Maybe international laws prohibit them? I don't remember exactly but thought it was along those lines Edited December 13, 2015 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 And for those wanting a Dillon bullet feeder. Didn't we learn that they won't make one because of some laws about being an ammo manufacturer or something like that? Maybe international laws prohibit them? I don't remember exactly but thought it was sling those lines That doesn't make 100% sense to me. I always understood their story was they didn't believe they had built one yet that was 100% reliable and as such had not released one. I can't see how adding a bullet feeder crosses some legal line. Lee make bullet feeders and case feeders for the pro1000 and load master. Hornady make both. Rcbs has a bullet feeder for their new pro5 and pro7 and rumour is case feeder is coming soon. Still the aftermarket solution for 650s and 1050s from mr bulletfeeder works very, very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I've been waiting 20 years for the bullet feeder from Big D. Guess i'll just go MBF... Maybe Dillon looked at it and decided they couldn't do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How about a powder hopper for a 1050 equipped with a drain so you don't have to remove it from the head to empty it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I've been waiting 20 years for the bullet feeder from Big D. Guess i'll just go MBF... Maybe Dillon looked at it and decided they couldn't do better? This is my assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradhe Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Commercial presses use very fancy collators that feed the press directly with primers. I was told that the collator alone starts at $3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427Cobra Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I would like a press mounted case trimmer that chamfered in\out like my Giraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 A 1050 variant designed for automation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donald Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I would like a press mounted case trimmer that chamfered in\out like my Giraud Or Giraud to come up with a cutter that trims and chamfers for the 1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Commercial presses use very fancy collators that feed the press directly with primers. I was told that the collator alone starts at $3000 Yes, I am sure of that, but I am wondering how they control all those detonation-related issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donald Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Commercial presses use very fancy collators that feed the press directly with primers. I was told that the collator alone starts at $3000 Yes, I am sure of that, but I am wondering how they control all those detonation-related issues. I kind of started to explore the manufacture of powder at the height of the 'powder shortage' . A friend of mine is a chemist and had quite a bit of experience manufacturing hazardous items. He said the cost of safety control items would be extremely cost prohibitive. The explosion control of the large primer collators would be explosion resistant and have fire suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 And for those wanting a Dillon bullet feeder. Didn't we learn that they won't make one because of some laws about being an ammo manufacturer or something like that? Maybe international laws prohibit them? I don't remember exactly but thought it was sling those lines That doesn't make 100% sense to me. I always understood their story was they didn't believe they had built one yet that was 100% reliable and as such had not released one. I can't see how adding a bullet feeder crosses some legal line. Lee make bullet feeders and case feeders for the pro1000 and load master. Hornady make both. Rcbs has a bullet feeder for their new pro5 and pro7 and rumour is case feeder is coming soon. Still the aftermarket solution for 650s and 1050s from mr bulletfeeder works very, very well. Found the thread: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120726#entry1366869 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120726#entry1369629 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 How about a powder hopper for a 1050 equipped with a drain so you don't have to remove it from the head to empty it. http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 On the case prep set up what could you do with a dillon bl550 ? It gives you four stations under $300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) On the case prep set up what could you do with a dillon bl550 ? It gives you four stations under $300I've been mulling the same thing. I think it could do everything needed from sizing/de priming, trimming, and neck sizing. Incapable of Swaging for crimped primer pockets would be the negative.Unless something could be created for the unused priming station to swage? Maybe that could be the new product. Edited December 14, 2015 by jkrispies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echd Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 RCBS does make that that already, called a Lube Die. It is a hollow bodied decapping die with different sized felt inserts that are saturated with lube so you decap and lube before sizing. They came out with this when they started doing their progressive presses. Neal in AZ My short experience with this die was that it led to the collapsed necks and folds typical of over lubing brass. Maybe I was using it wrong. I would like to see a quick detach for dillon powder measures. It is a very minor annoyance, but I hate moving them from press to press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echd Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 On the case prep set up what could you do with a dillon bl550 ? It gives you four stations under $300I've been mulling the same thing. I think it could do everything needed from sizing/de priming, trimming, and neck sizing. Incapable of Swaging for crimped primer pockets would be the negative.Unless something could be created for the unused priming station to swage? Maybe that could be the new product. There is one of those. I think gs customs makes a swager for both the 650 and 550. I have not used either and they will void your warranty, so use with caution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 All dies should have calibration marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 On the case prep set up what could you do with a dillon bl550 ? It gives you four stations under $300I've been mulling the same thing. I think it could do everything needed from sizing/de priming, trimming, and neck sizing. Incapable of Swaging for crimped primer pockets would be the negative.Unless something could be created for the unused priming station to swage? Maybe that could be the new product. There is one of those. I think gs customs makes a swager for both the 650 and 550. I have not used either and they will void your warranty, so use with caution... Thanks for the heads-up on the GS Customs swage. I did a little research, though, and it doesn't appear to work especially well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 On the case prep set up what could you do with a dillon bl550 ? It gives you four stations under $300I've been mulling the same thing. I think it could do everything needed from sizing/de priming, trimming, and neck sizing. Incapable of Swaging for crimped primer pockets would be the negative.Unless something could be created for the unused priming station to swage? Maybe that could be the new product. There is one of those. I think gs customs makes a swager for both the 650 and 550. I have not used either and they will void your warranty, so use with caution... the swage it is also releasing a 550 swage tool at the end of the month http://swageit.com/news/dillon-550-swager-update/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I remember reading "if Dillon had a bullet feeder, that would put them as a defensive article and subject to ITAR registration. Currently, they are not under ITAR for their machines. Adding a bullet feeder would do so." That said Lee, Hornady, RCBS all have them and are sold across the pond, so I don't know if that is BS or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickRak2000 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 As far as the ITAR argument goes... what's the difference between a case feeder and a bullet feeder? Nothing, in my view. They are both simply labor saving devices. One saves you from handling cases piece by piece... the other from handling projectiles piece by piece. Why allow a case feeder and not a bullet feeder? Since case feeders ARE allowed, by that logic Dillon should be able to sell a press with a bullet feeder, but NOT include a case feeder and therefore not be subject to ITAR registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 it is a topic drift... I am pretty sure it is possible to build a machine that makes ammo if you put in brass cases, live primers, powder, and bullets, and does so without any one doing anything other than flipping the on switch. some where between a one die press and the Mr. Ammo above is where ITAR kicks in. where do you think it should be? my thinking is about 500 primers. back to topic I think index marks on the dies may be a good idea. the locking nuts would also have to be marked. miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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