MilkMyDuds Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Category?categoryId=54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'd bet that this grouping is from their gunsmith installed barrel and from working on the slide to barrel fitment. Wonder how much work the gunsmith has to do to get this improvement and how well their semi-drop-in barrel performs? Have to watch this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'd be more impressed if that was a 10 - 15 shot group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 For USPSA/IDPA, I would be more than happy to get <2'' grouping @25 yards with the semi drop-in. I currently have a Bar-Sto match target barrel fitted to my slide by BarSto. Yes it can do 2'' @25 yards, but it is very expensive, about the same cost as a brand new MP9 Pro 5'' gun. Bar-Sto also sells a drop-in version that does not require gunsmith fitting but I doubt it could do 2'' @25 yards. APEX appears to be on track filling this sweet spot of "highly accurate drop-in" (does such thing really exist?), provided it does not cost more than the pistol itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimaryBruce Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) "highly accurate drop-in" (does such thing really exist?), provided it does not cost more than the pistol itself...Companies can say what they want, but not really. You're only going to get marginal accuracy increase over a factory barrel with a 100% drop in barrel that requires no fitment. The fitment is where you get the increase in accuracy, so you can't expect much over factory out of something that won't require any. My point is they can't get tolerances much tighter than factory barrel in order to guarantee that it is 100% drop in in any gun. Edited November 3, 2015 by bruceg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtysanchez Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 They're not advertising less than 2" @25 yards. It's less than 2" at 50 yards. I'd like to see that........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'd bet that type of accuracy is from a barrel fixture, not installed in a slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'd bet that type of accuracy is from a barrel fixture, not installed in a slide. No it's in a gun in a ransom rest with store bought practice ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingSomeone Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 This is exciting. The accuracy of the stock M&P barrels has been plenty good I look forward to trying this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 This appears to be the only aftermarket barrel with a twist rate of 1:10. BarSto, KKM and StormLake are all 1:16 or 1:18. I wonder if the 1:10 will stabilize the 147gr better at low PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmooberry Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Has anyone heard of a release date on these? I glanced over the ad and didn't see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Randy updated on the other forum that their target releasing date is 12/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyback Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hope they produce a .45 version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'm very curious to see how it works for us common folk who buy one hoping to increase the accuracy of one of our favorite platforms. I'd be interested in a 40S&W if they decide to add that to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Does anyone know who's barrels apex is using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Athouse Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 They've been "coming soon" for several years now. I'm still skeptical that they will ever show up. It seems like its been just around the corner for a really long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Be skeptical if you want, but they are available for pre-order from Brownells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lior Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How inaccurate are the stock 5" M&P barrels supposed to be? I haven't noticed any inaccuracy problems with any of the one's I've been shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have pre-ordered the 5'' drop-in from Brownells. Once I get it, I will compare that with the KKM and BarSto I have and report back. Here is the pic from APEX FB page: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Is that a straight drop in? I was under the impression they were doing a gunsmith fit, or a semi-fit barrel. I would think a straight drop in would offer little improvement over stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The brownell's link shows 2 versions, a gunsmith fit and a drop in that may need slight filing of the front locking face. Also interested, but will certainly wait for reviews since its so damn expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 After spending $500 on the BarSto gunsmith fitted barrel, I think the APEX drop-in is a steal, provided it's as good as they claim to be. I think the drop-in is not truly a "drop-in" like KKM or StormLake, but requires some simple fitting by yourself. How hard is it to install the Semi Drop-In? Easier than you think. Randy has done a step-by-step video walking you though the fitting process. That video is being edited now but you can find the instructions on our blog. It's also outlined in the barrel packaging...but be sure to watch the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Fitting instructions for semi-drop in barrel are on Apex Tactical's website, specifically in the blog section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truborshooter Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Brownells now shows both drop in and gunsmith barrels in both 4.25" and 5"in stock Edited December 13, 2015 by truborshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkMyDuds Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Brownells now shows both drop in and gunsmith barrels in both 4.25" and 5"in stock Unless you have a coupon or some special discounts at Brownells, I don't see the reason why ordering there, while APEX sells all of these at the same cost and ships the same day: https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Category?categoryId=54 My story with Brownells: I pre-ordered from Brownells on 12/3 last Thursday. I was told Brownells will ship when the barrel is released this Monday. As of today, 12/12, I still don't have the barrel. They delayed the shipping for 5 days. APEX called them and looks like Brownells was too busy to ship these out until we called them a few time. People ordered from APEX directly already got the barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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