SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hey guys, I keep accidentally hitting the mag release on my Gen4 Glock 35 and dropping mags. Doesn't happen during live/dry fire, but it keeps happening when I'm running around a match I'm guessing my support hand either moves up/forward or I squeeze too hard being all amped up, and I end up releasing the mag -- only reason I don't end up scattering mags across the range like a horse dropping poop all over the place is because I'm gripping the gun firm enough that the mag won't drop Glock is 100% OEM/stock, except for sights and a powder puff recoil spring Have any of you had personal experiences with this problem and, even better, fixing it? Potential fixes I've thought about: 1) Move support hand lower or backward -- I don't like this, as I like to Vogel-power-clench my Glock as high/forward as possible to help control recoil better 2) Change/modify mag release -- my short thumb already has a hard time reaching for the mag release when I DO want to spit that mag out; also, I'm concerned doing so will kick me outta USPSA Production Would appreciate any thoughts/comments. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroth Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 For shooting production, there are a few options, but to be safe I would leave it. How long have you been shooting this gun? If you just got it, keep working at it, your brain will eventually train your hands where they arent allowed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwill Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Switch to RHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 For shooting production, there are a few options, but to be safe I would leave it. How long have you been shooting this gun? If you just got it, keep working at it, your brain will eventually train your hands where they arent allowed to be. Since 2011. This is the only gun I shoot. Have probably shot 40-50K rounds through it, dryfired at least 5-6x of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Switch to RHS What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwill Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Reverse mag release to right hand side. Then use trigger finger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroth Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Right hand side. He's saying switch the mag release to the other side of the gun. You will likely be using your right index finger instead of your right thumb to press the button. Try it out and see how it feels. Note: must have gen 4 mags, earlier mags are not bi-directional. Edit: spelling Edited October 26, 2015 by andyroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hmmmm. I didn't think about that. I've heard lefties complain about having a hard time hitting mag releases since they're designed for right-handed shooters. Not sure if that's a "new" problem worth having in lieu of my current problem, but something to think about. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 surgery, you don't need the ends of your thumbs anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 surgery, you don't need the ends of your thumbs anyway Lol. Take that trolling stuff to Doodie -- this is serious business, yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroth Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hmmmm. I didn't think about that. I've heard lefties complain about having a hard time hitting mag releases since they're designed for right-handed shooters. Not sure if that's a "new" problem worth having in lieu of my current problem, but something to think about. Thanks!How often does it happen? If it were happening to me I would be working on adjusting my grip. I'm actually going to have to adjust my grip too for a similar problem. The extended mag release on mine scratches the webbing skin between my left thumb and index finger. It had never caused a dropped mag though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hmmmm. I didn't think about that. I've heard lefties complain about having a hard time hitting mag releases since they're designed for right-handed shooters. Not sure if that's a "new" problem worth having in lieu of my current problem, but something to think about. Thanks!How often does it happen? If it were happening to me I would be working on adjusting my grip. I'm actually going to have to adjust my grip too for a similar problem. The extended mag release on mine scratches the webbing skin between my left thumb and index finger. It had never caused a dropped mag though... 1-3 times per stage during yesterday's match. That's around 1-3 times too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I ALWAYS switch the Gen 4's to the right side.....(small hands and no chance of breaking the 180 during mag changes)...MY SV 2011 has the Mitchell right side mag release, love it, never been challenged on the 180 rule... (THERE are THOSE that watch for any "rule" infraction, you know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You've been having this problem since 2011 and just now looking for a solution?! I'm a lefty and do fine using my trigger finger to release mags. I've tried reversing it to use my thumb and am so used to using my trigger finger that I didn't like it. If you do reverse the catch to use your trigger finger get the OEM extended catch, makes it much easier on the Gen 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 You've been having this problem since 2011 and just now looking for a solution?! I'm a lefty and do fine using my trigger finger to release mags. I've tried reversing it to use my thumb and am so used to using my trigger finger that I didn't like it. If you do reverse the catch to use your trigger finger get the OEM extended catch, makes it much easier on the Gen 4. No. He asked how long I'd been shooting the gun. Mag release issues are recent, starting just a few months ago. Okay. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 So I'm guessing you made a change to your grip at this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 So I'm guessing you made a change to your grip at this time? Actually, no. At the very least, not intentionally. I do believe my grip has gotten stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Oh, well then maybe the mag release or spring has worn out. Does the mag release look ok if you take it out of the frame? Maybe try replacing the spring and/or catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hmmmm. Mag release and spring both looked away when I pulled them out and a few months ago during a detailed cleaning. I'll replace it and see if it helps. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Givo08 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'd recommend replacing your mag release spring annually. I had a spring develop a slight bend in it after a pretty high-volume training year and mags started dropping out of the gun under recoil. I changed the spring out and the problem went away immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Okay. Will do. I did notice that I have a callous right where the mag release hits my hand - only callous on my support hand palm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Like this... Not this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Like the top one. But even higher, like Vogel does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Something between your top pic and this Edited October 27, 2015 by SirLoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLoin Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 My strong hand stays very high - so much so that I get slide bite regularly - while my support hand squeezes in as tight as possible to my strong hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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