tcazes Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Picked up a trubor from a member here and will be needing some data. It seems autocomp is a popular choice for 9 major. Anyone have data for this gun and a 124gr jacketed bullet? Also, for bullets, I'm trying to decide, precision delta Montana gold Bayou Everglades fmj What do yall like that is accurate yet cost effective? Not zero since they are a pain to get from what I can see. What powder if not autocomp is recommended? Shilouette? Blue dot? Hs-6? What burns cleanest and doesn't over fill the case? Please include oal, crimp, and charge rate. Edited October 13, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'm currently loading a 124 gr. Precision Delta JHP under 8.1 gr. of HS-6 at 1.16" OAL. I get 172 PF. I've used Silhouette also, but HS-6 is currently available at Powder Valley. I may try Auto Comp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRobson Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 If you read around here you'll see that HS-6 and a 115 seems to be the hot ticket for a 9mm trubor. Precision delta bullets work great and you only have to buy 2k at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ok cool I'll do some more searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I use 6.7 - 7 gr WAC under a 124 gr MG JHP. Works very well. I've attached (I hope) a photo of a 3" group (10 shots) at 52 yards with that ammo in my TruBor (9mm major). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Nice! I think I'm going to start there actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 In your original post, you asked for OAL and crimp ... I load these to 1.165" OAL , but I've loaded them down as low as 1.145" and they still are good to go, and the crimp is the standard crimp for all 9mm's (minor and major) in all of my guns - just remove the belling you made to seat the bullets. IMHO, this is The Safest (recognizing that there is no such thing as a Safe 9mm major load) there is - lots of room in the case for the powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Case fill was my major concern. You are the man. Thanks! Edited October 14, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberacp Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 In your original post, you asked for OAL and crimp ... I load these to 1.165" OAL , but I've loaded them down as low as 1.145" and they still are good to go, and the crimp is the standard crimp for all 9mm's (minor and major) in all of my guns - just remove the belling you made to seat the bullets. IMHO, this is The Safest (recognizing that there is no such thing as a Safe 9mm major load) there is - lots of room in the case for the powder. Hi-Power jack, have you tried the 121's with the same load as above? Am sure you have to add a little powder. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I've never tried the 121's, but they sound like a great alternative. A compromise between 115's and 124's. Doubt you'd have to put much more powder in there, but I'd check it with a chrono. But, I'm going back to the 115's when I finish up my 124 supply - not sure I currently see the advantage to going to 121 - might change my mind next year, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) 124g extreme RN bullet 8.3 of 3n38 1.185 OAL This makes 173 pf in mine. this almost fills the case, is definitely compressed, and in general is a pain in the ass, but I have a decent amount of it on hand. Edited October 14, 2015 by seanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 +1 for 3n38. Great stuff but it WILL fill up a case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 I've never tried the 121's, but they sound like a great alternative. A compromise between 115's and 124's. Doubt you'd have to put much more powder in there, but I'd check it with a chrono. But, I'm going back to the 115's when I finish up my 124 supply - not sure I currently see the advantage to going to 121 - might change my mind next year, though. Can you tell me why the switch back to 115? Also is there any benefit to rn or hp? Other than feed reliability? Which do you prefer? I dont like compressed loads so I'll be skipping the 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I had some 115's left over that I recently shot, and seems like better control (less muzzle rise) than the 124's. If you have a comp, it's lot easier to shoot a bullet that has NO exposed lead (on the base) - that lead will eventually clog up your compensator - lots of work to remove. Lot easier to use JHP's for CMP's .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I've never tried the 121's, but they sound like a great alternative. A compromise between 115's and 124's. Doubt you'd have to put much more powder in there, but I'd check it with a chrono. But, I'm going back to the 115's when I finish up my 124 supply - not sure I currently see the advantage to going to 121 - might change my mind next year, though. I initially ran 121's but went to 115's. I used 7.2-7.3 WAC @1.168 for 173 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankdiesel Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I use 9.6ish grains of AA7 with 124 MG...It fills the case up pretty good but also provides plenty of gas...I've tried WAC, HS6, CFE...etc...it seem's to work the best in my gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmj3 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 8.5 HS-6 with 115 JHPs here (PD or MG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 8.5 HS-6 with 115 JHPs here (PD or MG). What oal are you using on the 8.5 and a MG 115? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmj3 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm back down to 1.150 - the longer I went the worse the accuracy got for me (out to about 1.170 max).I'm guessing it's probably due to the neck tension with the shorter 115s - not much bullet in the case at 1.170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I would bet there's not! I have the press set at 1.166" Go from there. It was a good OAL for 3n38. I just picked up a 9 barrel for my trubor. I had good luck with my glock but I'm liking loading longer for the 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggMike Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) My load for my Trubor was (sold it) 124gr Montana Gold, 8.1gr HS-6, 1.160. At nationals the power factor was 173. My own chronograph results was giving me about 175pf. That load is soft shooting and accurate. Edited October 15, 2015 by BiggMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sarge, how many grains of WAC did you use with 121's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberacp Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sarge, how many grains of WAC did you use with 121's? check post #15 He mentioned 7.2 - 7.3 WAC with 121s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I took it as 7.2-7.3 with 115's. I'm at 7.2 now with 115's. Going to try 121's. Edited October 15, 2015 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 I agree I didn't really CLEARLY understand if he meant the 115's or 121's either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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