wanderer Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 question I was asked in the weekend and i'm not sure of the answer. shooter has factory adjustable front sight on 686 and wants to shoot it in production. now I know it's not allowed but what can be done to allow it. 2 options presented to me were glue up the adjustable so it cant be moved (I know this one not allowed as it still an adjustable sight) or replace with fixed sight. so question is, can that be done? reason i'm unsure is the barrel is factory milled to accept the adjustable and a new fixed sight would have to be made to fit this cut. would that be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg in VA Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Would probably be easier and cheaper to replace the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) The best thing to do would be to pull that barrel and save it as is and put a regular barrel in it's place. If you don't want the original, you can sell it on Enos or Gunbroker. Edited October 12, 2015 by Toolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 He is in New Zealand and getting a spare 6" barrel will be difficult. I know how long it takes to get one. However, I believe we could machine a new sight block and install the new pin in front sight system used by S&W easy enough, then build a proper Patridge Style front sight similar to what you use Warren, and he will be better off. I have a complete Adjustable front sight system I got of Alan550 a few years back and could use the base of that as a model for the new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 yeap, probably be easier to make a new sight, but the question still remains, can a gun that is not production legal, be made legal by this modification. I accept the barrel swap would be the best option to meet the rules, but might not be the easiest given location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Change the entry to Metallic and the problem goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 yes, there is that but the shooter want to compete in production at the worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 How hard would it be to import a barrel, getting through customs and all the paperwork type stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) warren, biggest hassle is finding someone who will export, but goes something like this get import permit here 1mth (that's the easy bit) find someone who will export and do paper work, get export permit there $250 and 1 mth ship $50+ sounds easy ay Edited October 16, 2015 by wanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Yeah, sounds bad to me. Maybe you could help a mate get a custom barrel for PPC or some other type match and scoop up the original? I was thinking of sending a care package with a barrel, but sounds like it wouldn't be worth spending $300 and a bunch of time for a $125 barrel. Edited October 16, 2015 by Toolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadeyeGeorge Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The best way to resolve the question is to email Damien at the NRA, who will check with referees about the issue of the legality of modifying the sight. I doubt it is allowed, but it shouldn't take long to get an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Have done that and awaiting decision. Strange we have three NRA referees' in NZ and nobody bothered to ask us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Got the decision. Not legal to modify the front sight to a fixed. It would be an external modification as the barrel for the adjustable sight is milled and pinned specifically for the adjustable sight. "Original sight configuration of firearm cannot be changed and firearms with adjustable front sights are not allowed in production. However this firearm would be legal for metallic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So if the factory barrel has an interchangeable front sight system (Current S&W) you are OK to use it in production. But to modify an old barrel to the new system will not be allowed even if you used factory S&W parts all round. But you are allowed to change the barrel of a Semi Auto Pistol to any brand of barrel available that fits into the firearm. Not the way the rule was intended to be written I expect. So if I got 6" of the finest 357" barrel the world made, shaped it exactly like a S&W barrel, scratched S&W all over the outside polished it up all nice and shiny like, reamed the cylinder and inserted new tighter straighter chambers, specially tight and matched to barrel, no one will complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No one knows revolvers any more. They would not even know, much less complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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