HesedTech Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) I stopped using the pins and also switched to “Brass Juice” for the wash, the brass is shiny new and even the pockets are coming out mostly clean. Dry with an old food dryer after two complete rinsings with fresh water. Without pins allows about 2k of 9mm to be washed at a time and no hassles of making sure all those pins are retrieved. Old thread but worthy. Edited November 2, 2018 by HesedTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Bin on the left - 2 hours of wet tumbling with pins, Lemi Shine and a splash of Dawn dish soap. Bin on right - 2 hours of wet tumbling with no pins and Brass Juice. With pins was cleaner inside the case and the primer pockets. With Brass Juice about 85% as clean. I don't use pins anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I wonder what Brass Juice is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achalmersman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Well this thread made me try another batch without pins..and another batch...and another batch. I guess I'm converted now. I'll be using 9mm of lemishine a squirt of Dawn and 1hr 45min on the tumbler. I agree with the above statement. 90% as clean as with pins. I can take that for pistol brass and it is less work. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 hours ago, slavex said: I wonder what Brass Juice is. I will bring you some to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 thanks dude! will give it a try this week along with the spiffy new dryer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I wish we had a "like" button on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) On 11/6/2018 at 9:09 AM, slavex said: I wonder what Brass Juice is. This: https://www.thereloadingstation.com/products/brass-juice-case-wash Yes my brass looked that good after about an hour of tumbling (no pins) in Franklin Wet Tumbler. Edited November 7, 2018 by HesedTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipperhead Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I've cleaned pin-less for quite some time now. The pins were a pain, particularly to my Dillon loaders. I broke a good number of decapping pins on the loaders from pins jammed in the flash holes.I typically load in fairly high volumes and looking inside of each piece of brass for shiny, stuck pins was just one more unnecessary step...the tumbler does just fine without pins. GarlandSent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRock Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just got an email from Midsouth. For anyone interested they have the FA kit on sale for 159.99. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00122909544/frankford-arsenal-platinum-series-rotary-tumbler-(stainless-steel-media-tumbler)?trk_msg=9NH9AJ105AOKNF00D414S7SBS4&trk_contact=F1BJ9NV17FM95502PRCDJ803LK&trk_sid=3N69JTN52UHJOG2ULF4QVOLS3G&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=turn+on+images+and+shop+frankford+arsenal+tumbler&utm_campaign=Get+This+Case+Tumbler+Today! That's about the best I've seen since I got mine for 120.00 last year at Cabela's. Don't know if they'll bring that sale back for Christmas or not. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, DRock said: Just got an email from Midsouth. For anyone interested they have the FA kit on sale for 159.99. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00122909544/frankford-arsenal-platinum-series-rotary-tumbler-(stainless-steel-media-tumbler)?trk_msg=9NH9AJ105AOKNF00D414S7SBS4&trk_contact=F1BJ9NV17FM95502PRCDJ803LK&trk_sid=3N69JTN52UHJOG2ULF4QVOLS3G&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=turn+on+images+and+shop+frankford+arsenal+tumbler&utm_campaign=Get+This+Case+Tumbler+Today! That's about the best I've seen since I got mine for 120.00 last year at Cabela's. Don't know if they'll bring that sale back for Christmas or not. Dave Amazon is 159.99 all the time too. I think I got mine a few years back for around a hundred bucks on a flash sale there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRock Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sarge said: Amazon is 159.99 all the time too. I think I got mine a few years back for around a hundred bucks on a flash sale there Thanks for pointing that out. Guess it's not that much of a special after all. I get emails from the different shooting sites but don't look at Amazon very often. Guess I should start. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Lol, I meant, I wonder what Brass Juice is made of. I'm guessing it's likely an existing product simply rebranded and repackaged. Also, I was informed by my friend up a few threads, that you can reuse the solution a couple times, just wondering who does that? How many times can you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, slavex said: Lol, I meant, I wonder what Brass Juice is made of. I'm guessing it's likely an existing product simply rebranded and repackaged. Also, I was informed by my friend up a few threads, that you can reuse the solution a couple times, just wondering who does that? How many times can you do it? so far, the Frankford Arsenal cleaning solution has worked best for me. $15 a bottle and three capfuls is plenty to get the brass sparkling clean. No need for lemishine etc either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 my normal routine is laundry detergent and lemishine. I found that better than the FART juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124gr9mm Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) I still use the pins for .45 acp and for .308 brass, but for 9mm and .38 special I don't. Haven't seen a big difference with those so I go for the time savings. Edited November 8, 2018 by 124gr9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenstone Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) I'm going to try something different as an additive for wet tumbling WITHOUT pins. A stretch here, but a product recently "discovered" for motorcycle cleaning that has become all the rage is a laundry product called SHOUT. Spray it on, rinse it off...done, works great. I've tried it and have some on hand to try wet tumbling with. I'll post back with results, Edited November 9, 2018 by Kenstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GringoBandito Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, Kenstone said: I'm going to try something different as an additive for wet tumbling WITHOUT pins. A stretch here, but a product recently "discovered" for motorcycle cleaning that has become all the rage is a laundry product called SHOUT. Spray it on, rinse it off...done, works great. I've tried it and have some on hand to try wet tumbling with. I'll post back with results, Following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenstone Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) On 11/8/2018 at 8:18 PM, Kenstone said: I'm going to try something different as an additive for wet tumbling WITHOUT pins. A stretch here, but a product recently "discovered" for motorcycle cleaning that has become all the rage is a laundry product called SHOUT. Spray it on, rinse it off...done, works great. I've tried it and have some on hand to try wet tumbling with. I'll post back with results, OK I tried the shout laundry stuff... I have no "as fired" brass, this stuff was dry/vibe tumbled before I wet tumbled with Shout. Before: Edited November 16, 2018 by Kenstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenstone Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) … and after pic, wet tumbled with Shout, NO PINS, Amorall w/w, Dawn, Lemishine, for 2 hours. So not much improvement, but primer pockets look cleaner to me, inside the case not so much. I'm going to try Oxi Clean next. TIP: adding a few drops of FABRIC SOFTENER will knock down the foam/suds from the Dawn/Armoral W/W. Edited November 16, 2018 by Kenstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillR1 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 No pins for me either. I use lemishine and Cascade dishwasher liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenstone Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillR1 said: No pins for me either. I use lemishine and Cascade dishwasher liquid. Thanks for posting... I'm trying different/common "soaps/cleaners" to find what works the best, but if it's gonna cost as much as Brass Juice why bother. I searched "carbon cleaner" on amazon and got quite a list, and some of it was water soluble. But it seemed to be used undiluted, which is cost prohibitive. Do you have any pics of bass wet tumbled with dishwasher liquid? Edited November 17, 2018 by Kenstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxman2809 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 2:09 AM, slavex said: I wonder what Brass Juice is. On 11/7/2018 at 1:09 PM, slavex said: Lol, I meant, I wonder what Brass Juice is made of. I'm guessing it's likely an existing product simply rebranded and repackaged. Also, I was informed by my friend up a few threads, that you can reuse the solution a couple times, just wondering who does that? How many times can you do it? You and me both a suspect the same thing. I was hoping they had an Materials sheet or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Kenstone: Here are some done with Dawn, vinegar, water and pins (larger stainless pins than come with wet tumblers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve RA said: Kenstone: Here are some done with Dawn, vinegar, water and pins (larger stainless pins than come with wet tumblers). What is vinegar for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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