rustybayonet Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I have always shot 230gr out of my 1911 .45acp. I was thinking of trying 200gr for cost reasons. Is there a big difference in targeting charictoristics? Or with the right load will they shot the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I've always found that a weight difference will usually hit someplace different, not only high or low, but also left/right. But, depends on how you define "BIG" difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 200gn is often more accurate than 230gn. Out at 25 yards, it might shoot a bit lower, but you won't know until you try it. I don't think I have fired a 230gn bullet in any .45 in at least 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Probably more muzzle rise, snappier recoil Same seems to hold true in 9 / 115-124 vs 147 And 40 / 180 vs 200 It's what "feel" u care for and adjust sights accordingly if impact is changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 With 200s you will use a little more powder than with the 230s. Muzzle rise will be less and you will be back on target sooner. I prefer them. Many of the people shooting single stack have gone to 185s for the same reason. Try both and see what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have switched to 200gr and prefer the recoil impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It will certainly affect your Power Factor !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I don't see how it would affect PF. I load my 200s to 172~175PF. When I was using 230s I loaded them to the same PF. The only difference between them is the recoil characteristics and you use a tad more powder for the 200s. I'm about to drop down to 180s just to see what they feel like at 175PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 You need to switch loads (powder charge) when going from 230 to 200gr or it will certainly affect your power factor. Same going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 You need to switch loads (powder charge) when going from 230 to 200gr or it will certainly affect your power factor. Same going the other way. I know I will be changing the charge. But how do I get the PF? Is it calculated or is there a definite way to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 You need to switch loads (powder charge) when going from 230 to 200gr or it will certainly affect your power factor. Same going the other way. I know I will be changing the charge. But how do I get the PF? Is it calculated or is there a definite way to know? Velocity (fps) x Bullet Weight (gr) / 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Maybe I'm in the minority, but I've tried them all and I prefer 230s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It appears there are some semantic issues here. Here is a Shooting Times article on the subject. http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/power-factor-recoil-bullet-weight-compensators/ If you look at the 45ACP uncompensated chart you will find that a 185gr bullet loaded to 165PF has 4.58 ft/lb of recoil, white the 230gr loaded to 165PF has only 4.27. You can certainly feel the difference, but it is minor. The 185 load required 6.2gr of 231 to reach major white the 230 only required 4.6. That is why the recoil increased. The 185 load produced 6% less muzzle rise than the 230 at the same PF. You can expect the 200gr to be right in between. As I stated above, all else being equal, the difference is in the recoil characteristics and the amount of powder used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It appears there are some semantic issues here. Here is a Shooting Times article on the subject. http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/power-factor-recoil-bullet-weight-compensators/ If you look at the 45ACP uncompensated chart you will find that a 185gr bullet loaded to 165PF has 4.58 ft/lb of recoil, white the 230gr loaded to 165PF has only 4.27. You can certainly feel the difference, but it is minor. The 185 load required 6.2gr of 231 to reach major white the 230 only required 4.6. That is why the recoil increased. The 185 load produced 6% less muzzle rise than the 230 at the same PF. You can expect the 200gr to be right in between. As I stated above, all else being equal, the difference is in the recoil characteristics and the amount of powder used. That's what I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfalcon00 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Maybe I'm in the minority, but I've tried them all and I prefer 230s. You are not the only one. Doesn't matter what I try, for 45 seems I keep coming back to the 230 gr RN. Plus they really give those steel plates a smack. Brings a smile to my face every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSCaster2 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 My preference is also a 230gr bullet with N310 powder. Very soft shooting and plenty accurate at 25 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMPhotog Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I just started reloading 45 for IDPA matches, both for cost and softer shooting. I bought some 200gr RN and SWC and worked up some loads with Bullseye. After much experimenting and testing, I have settled on 230gr RN. You mentioned cost being cheaper for 200gr bullets, however 200 will use more powder. I think the 230 has a softer recoil and they are as accurate for IDPA as the 200's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Glad to hear that trend. I've tried them all, and have been shooting 230-grain LRN for the past three years again, and I was starting to think that maybe I should start experimenting again. Y'all have convinced me to not bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keryou1960 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 SNSCaster2 What's your powder charge and oal ? I'm running SNS 200 swc with 4.4 n310 @ 1.235 and make 170pf out of a Premier 2. I would like to try the 230's. Lube ring or straight wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Maybe I'm in the minority, but I've tried them all and I prefer 230s. you and me both, but in a match situation, I don't really notice much. i get pretty much the same accuracy as far as i can tell. both are danged accurate in my guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 With no compensator, a lighter bullet has more recoil and more muzzle rise. It's only with a compensator that the lighter bullet has less muzzle rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Like others I have tried all kinds of weights and profiles. These days I am about settled on the 225 TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I like the 200gr LSWC or coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSCaster2 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I'm using this bullet: http://www.snscasting.com/new-45-acp-230-grain-round-nose-coated-1000ct/ My N310 load is 3.7-3.8gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keryou1960 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 SNSCaster2, Thank you sir. I'll give them a try. Another question though. Any difference in accuracy @25 yards and is there a noticable reduction in recoil between 200's -230's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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