racerba Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I seem to remember a ruling that a competitor may assist the gun to the ground without being DQed. But they cannot pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I seem to remember a ruling that a competitor may assist the gun to the ground without being DQed. But they cannot pick it up. Trying to catch the gun is generally no-no time, so I would consider this the opposite of safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 ................................ the RM said after it fell out the second time, he should have left it there until it was his turn to shoot. Now that made me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miss-fire Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 9/21/2015 at 2:23 PM, JAFO said: Anyone offer him a screwdriver to adjust his holster tension? And a glass of water for fainting? *gahhh! whaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofe954 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 To me trap does not equal retrieve, and I would not DQ. I would say trapping is stopping the gun from falling, retrieving is reversing the fall. Kind of range lawyery I guess, I would not say that someone standing with something pinned to their leg was engaged in the act of retrieving it. Definition of retrieve retrieved; retrieving transitive verb 1 : to locate and bring in (killed or wounded game) 2 : to call to mind again 3 : to get back again : regain 4 a : rescue, salvage b : to return (something, such as a ball or shuttlecock that is difficult to reach) successfully 5 : restore, revive his writing retrieves the past 6 : to remedy the evil consequences of : correct 7 : to get and bring back; especially : to recover from storage retrieve information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Not a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/7/2018 at 9:30 PM, bofe954 said: To me trap does not equal retrieve, and I would not DQ. I would say trapping is stopping the gun from falling, retrieving is reversing the fall. Kind of range lawyery I guess, I would not say that someone standing with something pinned to their leg was engaged in the act of retrieving it. Definition of retrieve retrieved; retrieving transitive verb 1 : to locate and bring in (killed or wounded game) 2 : to call to mind again 3 : to get back again : regain 4 a : rescue, salvage b : to return (something, such as a ball or shuttlecock that is difficult to reach) successfully 5 : restore, revive his writing retrieves the past 6 : to remedy the evil consequences of : correct 7 : to get and bring back; especially : to recover from storage retrieve information Handling is the crime. Not retrieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The trapping issue isnt whether or not its dropped, or retrieved. The issue is the act of trapping itself is unsafe gun handling. I mean so is having crappy holsters, but once its out, safest thing to do is let it fall. DQ under 10.5,, dont need a specific as the rest of 10.5 isnt all inclusive. ( something that seems to constantly get over looked) A gun that passes safety tests wont go off if dropped , even if it is loaded. The grabbing at and trying to catch the falling gun is in itself unsafe gun handling, as THAT is potentially what makes the gun go off by inadvertently mashing the trigger when u try to snatch it out of the air or pin it. Yeh might scuff ur finish but way safer to just let it fall. IMO that was the intent of adding the trapped language. Trapping or grabbing a falling gun is unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Let's not forget we recently lost at least one shooter that tried to catch a falling gun & got his finger in the guard & shot himself. Just not worth dying over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, OPENB said: Let's not forget we recently lost at least one shooter that tried to catch a falling gun & got his finger in the guard & shot himself. Just not worth dying over. Yep, just call it unsafe gun handling, or if the trigger is exposed and ur touching it, handling gun outside safe area away from DQ. Personally If I was writing rule book, dropping or having a gun come out of your holster is unsafe gun handling and would be a DQ regardless of circumstances. Get a decent holster. No excuse for dropped gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 9/9/2015 at 1:14 PM, Ultimo-Hombre said: I am not gonna just let my pistol eat gravel/smash cmore, nick barrel crown, when I can attempt to trap it, knowing it is unloaded. If you want to DQ me for that then so be it. We could debate which is "safer" all day long,, letting an unloaded gun hit the deck or get trapped against my thigh. I would argue that "trapping" your pistol as it falls is a reflexive and reasonable action. I'm not gonna DQ you for it, you DQ me.... Oh well. I'm with you! You won't get DQ'd on my stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frgood Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Necro debate. Edited January 9, 2018 by frgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If you trap the gun against your leg would it be sweeping yourself with the muzzle? Unloading or not shouldn't matter, right? Still a do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 16 hours ago, mike4045 said: If you trap the gun against your leg would it be sweeping yourself with the muzzle? Unloading or not shouldn't matter, right? Still a do. Depends on where the muzzle is...most likely - no...because you are trapping the side of the gun to your leg, not lengthwise where the muzzle is pointing at your leg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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