jbultman Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 ImageUploadedByTapatalk1439780143.649854.jpg Here is a pic of my modded Ghost for a 35 with a SJC frame weight Did you do that yourself? Or did you send it out to SJC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbent Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I bought the holster from another shooter who had already made/had the mods done. I'll contact him to see who did the work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Whats inside? light or lead... Far out man, that's some heavy light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I love my race master and would hate to have to cut on her just because I can't/won't grip my gun correctly. Properly learn the fundamentals of shooting and stop trying to buy improvement. The most effective long term way to but improve is with more ammo thru the barrel. No short cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 I love my race master and would hate to have to cut on her just because I can't/won't grip my gun correctly. Properly learn the fundamentals of shooting and stop trying to buy improvement. The most effective long term way to but improve is with more ammo thru the barrel. No short cuts. I guess that's why Vogel is doing it huh? I don't think anybody grips the gun harder than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I love my race master and would hate to have to cut on her just because I can't/won't grip my gun correctly. Properly learn the fundamentals of shooting and stop trying to buy improvement. The most effective long term way to but improve is with more ammo thru the barrel. No short cuts. As someone who uses a frame weight, and by your standard I clearly must not have my fundamentals down. I wonder what class shooter you are, and how many wins you have in limited or open with your light weight Glock against heavier 2011's. I would just like to know more about the guy on the internet saying I'm trying to buy improvement because of a part I run on my gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Racinready300ex I was/am not trying to offend you or anybody on skill or fundamentals deficiencies. I am the first in line in needs improvement; I am not a bad shooter but I am also not a GM. However, it became apparent to me that through reading this topic that no one had talked about the purpose of a frame weight and addressed how fundamentals can/should address the issues. I add weight to my Limited and Open Glocks like the next guy, that's not the point I was/am trying to add. As RangerTrace stated, Vogel, who switch from heavier STI's back to Glocks and takes second in Production Nationals 2015. The following link is more where I was/am coming from: http://americanwarriorshow.libsyn.com/size/25/?search=the+great+on This is a podcast interview of Rob Latham by Mike Seeklander's American Warrior Show. Although it is long, it is very informational about how we become great (>95%) shooters. I hope this clarifies the grey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think what Ranger is saying is Vogel runs a weight on his Glock in limited. And I doubt anyone would argue he has a poor grip / fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Vogel has always shot GLOCK that I know of and every time I've heard or seen him he is shooting Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 No, Vogel shot STI's for about 3 years before switching to Glocks, somewhere in the mid 2000s. He is the opposite of Taran, who started on Glocks and went to STIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxj66 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Come on BSComp giving these guys a hard time.. I could have swore you were trying to switch to an 2011 open gun I would personally like to try a frame weighted glock.. My only question is does it cause issues on the 40s? I have read about weapon lights increasing the slide speed on the older gen 3 guns. Edited August 28, 2015 by Foxj66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I am willing to bet that if someone was to ask Vogel if he would rather have a great grip or a frame weight, the answer would be ............hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Why would he only be able to have one or the other? Can't I have a good grip and a frame weight? If Bob didn't think the weight helped he probably wouldn't use it, would he? He should probably ditch the weight and work on his fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think what Ranger is saying is Vogel runs a weight on his Glock in limited. And I doubt anyone would argue he has a poor grip / fundamentals. Winner winner, chicken dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 No, Vogel shot STI's for about 3 years before switching to Glocks, somewhere in the mid 2000s. He is the opposite of Taran, who started on Glocks and went to STIs. According to Taran, he has somewhere around 30 Infinitys........Not sure about any STIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 "I am willing to bet that if someone was to ask Vogel if he would rather have a great grip or a frame weight, the answer would be ............hmmm?" The real answer is "both". One without the other is a total waste. The frame weight is well worth modifying a holster. And in answer to the question about the weight in .40 caliber....It works perfect, the only difference I can tell after thousands of rounds is less recoil. Sooner or later some enterprising person is going to make a holster for a Glock with a frame weight in the conventional form when enough of them are sold. I will be standing in line to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Man! People so bent out of shape over a simple reminder re fundamentals. Didn't mean to cause such a stir. Whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) The thread is about people using frame weights. The OP wasnt asking about any way to mitigate recoil other than by adding a frame weight. If yall want to discuss other means of recoil mitigation, perhaps another thread is needed. Edited August 29, 2015 by wgj3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 I visited with Vogel via the internet and he confirmed that he does use the extra weight and it makes a difference. The choice is yours!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrguns Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The thread is about people using frame weights. The OP wasnt asking about any way to mitigate recoil other than by adding a frame weight. If yall want to discuss other means of recoil mitigation, perhaps another thread is needed. amen : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2muchvdos Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 So were allowed to put a weight as a sjc or a light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) If you go on YouTube and watch the Pro-Am from 2014 Vogel was running that flash light weight on his 9 mm 34 ? He used that weighted 9mm to beat Eric G in my book that is the definition of done Edited September 13, 2015 by ryan45kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Hylton Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I added a frame weight to my Glock 35. The extra weight of the magwell and frame weight balance well and help control the recoil of the major loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 It is extremely tempting.......still, the cost and hassle of having to get a new holster will probably keep me from adding the weight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Over this winter I'm making a custom one for my M&P I believe this has real potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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