BeerBaron Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 If anything the 90 mounted scopes cop less blast as they are lower to the gun. Blast comes up and back and seems to go over the top of the 90 mounted cmores. Especially those mounted set back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ? Edited August 22, 2015 by cecil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ? This is the biggest problem with the 9mm. All the brass is different and ejects differently. Ejectors and extractors have to really be tuned to the nth degree to make them fool proof. Mag springs also make them eject different. I shoot a 9 and love it but that was a challenge for awhile after I had a new slide put on the gun. I just stuck an ugly ass 90 on the gun and quit worrying about it. My next venture will be an RTS2 once I read 10 straight positive reviews on their dependability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ?This is the biggest problem with the 9mm. All the brass is different and ejects differently. Ejectors and extractors have to really be tuned to the nth degree to make them fool proof. Mag springs also make them eject different. I shoot a 9 and love it but that was a challenge for awhile after I had a new slide put on the gun. I just stuck an ugly ass 90 on the gun and quit worrying about it. My next venture will be an RTS2 once I read 10 straight positive reviews on their dependability.My buddy has one that hasn't puked...yet.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ?This is the biggest problem with the 9mm. All the brass is different and ejects differently. Ejectors and extractors have to really be tuned to the nth degree to make them fool proof. Mag springs also make them eject different. I shoot a 9 and love it but that was a challenge for awhile after I had a new slide put on the gun. I just stuck an ugly ass 90 on the gun and quit worrying about it. My next venture will be an RTS2 once I read 10 straight positive reviews on their dependability.My buddy has one that hasn't puked...yet. I know. Mine ran perfect for two years and then the slide cracked and was replaced. No matter what was tried as far as getting everything replicated perfectly it was a jammomatic from there on out. Something, somehow, somewhere, changed and it was never the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I really don't know what the true statistics are, they are impossible to get from reading a forum, but I have been shooting 9mm for maybe 5 years, using several different guns, and only one of them has some minor issues, all others have been just fine, without any tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm interested by the folks that say a 90 degree mount means you see "less". If you shoot with both eyes open (and I assume most do) it's a complete non-issue. Your brain compensates and superimposes left and right eye images so you see "everything". It's like when you shoot with a suppressor and regular (vs. tall) sights. You can still see the target even though it's hidden from one eye (the dominant one) by the diameter of the suppressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm interested by the folks that say a 90 degree mount means you see "less". If you shoot with both eyes open (and I assume most do) it's a complete non-issue. Your brain compensates and superimposes left and right eye images so you see "everything". It's like when you shoot with a suppressor and regular (vs. tall) sights. You can still see the target even though it's hidden from one eye (the dominant one) by the diameter of the suppressor. To me I don't notice. Hell, I don't even really see the gun at all when I'm on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selecw Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Right. Although that's kind of a different point. I have a vague recollection after a stage of sight pictures. During a stage I only really "tune in" when I have a bad sight picture or make a mistake of some kind. Edited August 23, 2015 by selecw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Take for what it's worth I was told by cmore that the slide ride was not ment to be mounted 90 degree that's why the adjustment screws became loose and kept loosing it's zero they fixed it and when I got it back zeroed it and prob 200 rds later lost the zero again so I bought a rts2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Take for what it's worth I was told by cmore that the slide ride was not ment to be mounted 90 degree that's why the adjustment screws became loose and kept loosing it's zero they fixed it and when I got it back zeroed it and prob 200 rds later lost the zero again so I bought a rts2 Hello: That is bull crap. I have used the 90 degree mount for many years. The only time mine lost zero is when I forgot to Loc Tite the mount screws to the frame. I have well over 30,000 rounds through a couple of different open guns with 90 degree mounts. Never lost zero. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't buy that either. A screw should stay tight no matter which way it's oriented. Some cmores just work better than others I guess. Some won't hold zero and need fixed and others eat batteries like crazy. Thankfully mine don't suffer those issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have a 90 degree mount on my Tru Bor.. over 12,000 rounds later the CMore has not had one problem ... I don't like the look... but the results I do like.. I ordered a 90 for my DVC... osm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZGunut Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 To the people asking why C-More didn't make the RTS series of sights with a larger lense, CMore doesn't manufacture the unit it is just a rebrand from a overseas manufacturer. We just need a company owned and run by competition shooters to produce a product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochnost Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 To the people asking why C-More didn't make the RTS series of sights with a larger lense, CMore doesn't manufacture the unit it is just a rebrand from a overseas manufacturer. We just need a company owned and run by competition shooters to produce a product. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase214 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like I said that's what I was told maybe mine is defective and and that's the story they told me so they wouldn't have to replace it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 There is a reason for why the C-More is designed the way it is..........and thus why it is named as such. For some folks that often switch back and forth between limited and open, I might see an argument for a sideways C-More. But for the other 99.9% of the folks that would do that........you just converted your C-More to a C-Less. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSComp Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 To the people asking why C-More didn't make the RTS series of sights with a larger lense, CMore doesn't manufacture the unit it is just a rebrand from a overseas manufacturer. We just need a company owned and run by competition shooters to produce a product. Amen +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankdiesel Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I shoot a 45 degree mounted Cmore and like it. The set screws are kind of tough to get to and it can be a pain to site in sometimes but I tried a vertically mounted C-more on my back up gun and it wasn't for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg73 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I use a 45* mount as well. All the benefits of a 90* mount but a bit less bulk and more visibility on the left side. Only trade off is it's a bit harder to zero in...but really not much more difficult than a 90* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I use a 45* mount as well. All the benefits of a 90* mount but a bit less bulk and more visibility on the left side. Only trade off is it's a bit harder to zero in...but really not much more difficult than a 90*Who still makes 45's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ? This is the biggest problem with the 9mm. All the brass is different and ejects differently. Ejectors and extractors have to really be tuned to the nth degree to make them fool proof. Mag springs also make them eject different. I shoot a 9 and love it but that was a challenge for awhile after I had a new slide put on the gun. I just stuck an ugly ass 90 on the gun and quit worrying about it. My next venture will be an RTS2 once I read 10 straight positive reviews on their dependability. Problem? Not necessarily. On my older gun there is very visible errosion from the cases on the mount, but it never had any issues ejecting. That after thousands of rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I use a 45* mount as well. All the benefits of a 90* mount but a bit less bulk and more visibility on the left side. Only trade off is it's a bit harder to zero in...but really not much more difficult than a 90* One tip I got is turn the target 45 too. Then left is left up is up etc. you probably know that already but it was something I hadn't thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I am thinking about switching to a vertical mount on my DVC 9mm open... I noticed that the underside of the scope mount is beginning to show dings from the ejected brass.. my DVC only has about 500 rds thru it now.. on my last Tru Bore the vertical mount solved a jamming problem where the brass would hit the scope mount and bounce back in the gun... any other ideas ?This is the biggest problem with the 9mm. All the brass is different and ejects differently. Ejectors and extractors have to really be tuned to the nth degree to make them fool proof. Mag springs also make them eject different. I shoot a 9 and love it but that was a challenge for awhile after I had a new slide put on the gun. I just stuck an ugly ass 90 on the gun and quit worrying about it. My next venture will be an RTS2 once I read 10 straight positive reviews on their dependability. Problem? Not necessarily. On my older gun there is very visible errosion from the cases on the mount, but it never had any issues ejecting. That after thousands of rounds. Mine had chips on the scope itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg73 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I use a 45* mount as well. All the benefits of a 90* mount but a bit less bulk and more visibility on the left side. Only trade off is it's a bit harder to zero in...but really not much more difficult than a 90*Who still makes 45's? Don't think anyone makes them anymore. I picked it up on the forums a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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