RippinSVT Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Has anybody experimented with a mover rear sight, or is there some geometrical snafu I'm missing? I know Warren makes a great front mover, but my Metallic gun will mostly be a backup rig to experiment with (and shoot multigun agg) and I don't plan to dump much cash into it. It seems to me that I could figure out a way to machine a rear windage screw with a knob and some stops and accomplish what I need. What am I missing here, besides that I could impact my true zero and I'd have to find that first, then work on leads. What I'm referring to is basically a standard adjustable rear target sight (Aristocrat, Bomar, etc) with a thumbscrew instead of a flathead slot. If I'm a huge dumbass, let me know...I'm just a tinkerer who plays cowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I spent a year trying to figure out a good way to make a mover rear sight. It could be done, but complicated because of already having windage and elevation adjustments. Finally I realized that the simple answer was to do it on the front sight which was just sitting there doing nothing. It took another 6 months to figure out a compact, easy to use, reliable front sight. For any mover sight you will need repeatable adjustable stops and a positive way to return exactly to center. The geometry will work fine. The hard part will be making it easy to use and repeatable. Let us know what you come up with. All the Best! Edited June 24, 2015 by Toolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Thanks Warren. I'll experiment with whatever adjustable rears I might have sitting around. Also, I have a Piatt shroud that needs a mover base added, can I send it to you to be cut down and have the base installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Sure! I will be happy to do that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Shaun Hopkins has a slick mover rear sight. He is Want2race on this forum. Look up his posts and you can see a picture of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Thanks, will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Shot my mover rear sight at Bianchi this year. Showed it around a bit. My first design worked but wasn't as adjustable as I wanted. The second method worked out much better. It's simple, easy to use, easy to adjust (lead) and returns to zero. Sight adjustments are seperate from lead settings. I shoot light, fast bullets out of a 6.2" barrel. My lead distance is much less than say a .45 through a 5" gun. I'm not even close to using the full amount of lead possible. My goal is to be able to do both conversions for existing slides as well as put the mover sight directly onto new slides. Eventually. I'd like to put one on a 6" .45 and see how it does using 185 SWC's. I shot the full aggregate match on Tuesday, using the mover sight. Re-centered it and went to the practice range to confirm. Shot Practical the next day, one skidder in the 10 ring away from a 478. The design works, so far I have nearly 2k rounds through the gun with no issues. I can't post pics right now, but there are some out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 One issue with swapping the windage screw out with the thumb screw is durability. I considered that as well. Bomars barely hold together as it is. I ditched any idea that had threads. I wanted rapid movement with zero counting or thought involved. KISS principle. I'm not an engineer so I my solution is simple, and it WORKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Do you have any pics that shows how it works or how to use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks for the input Shaun. I had wonder about a small screw snapping/galling with a bunch of back and forth movement. I had considered filing down the rear sight's dovetail to be slightly loose and fitting recessed ball-detents to "click" it back and forth, but that solution doesn't lend itself to much "dialing in" for bullet speed. I'm still thinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 That was my first attempt. Ditched it. Not enough adjustment and was only as secure as a detent and spring. I wanted a locking mechanism. Problem was, my slide was cut for a Bomar. Elevation screw goes into slide. I made a conversion plate. I'll try to post a pic later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 This is what I used last year. Mover positions are independent from sight adjustments. Three positions. Returns to center zero. Adjustable lead. Move the sight the direction of travel. Target moving to the left, shift the sight left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blade Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 That's a slick set up..well done sir. I opted for Warren's mover front sight which works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I can't post the link right now, but if you search Shooting USA on FB you can watch my interview where I attempt to explain both the Xline trigger and this mover rear sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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