RippinSVT Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Guys, I recently got an older (2001-ish) Open gun equipped with a Piatt shroud/wings and Tasco Propoint Plus. This setup does not provide for any built-in lead on the Mover. While it would be easiest to just buy a Protocol Designs StickShift setup (saw them at the Cup, very nice stuff), I am set on keeping the gun setup as-is minus possibly the optic. This gun once belonged to a very special Bianchi shooter who has now passed on, so I'd like to keep it fairly intact. So who even sells a Mover dot anymore? I can't find a Gilmore or Pride/Fowler anywhere online. I half entertained making my own knob for the Tasco as a side-project. I like the looks of the Ultradot Matchdot II, but can't find any AP-specific details about them from the manufacturer. I'm pretty new to AP, so this highly-specialized stuff that apparently nobody sells is eluding me. Thanks, Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 About the only option you leave open is to buy a used Gilmore with the mover lead in it as a knob adjustment. There are plenty of them around, just not in use anymore. I'd bet someone on here has one they'd be willing to sell at a reasonable price for your needs to keep the appearance of your gun as is. Alan~^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Kelly Gilmore had mover scopes for sale at Bianchi this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Buy a stickshift (regular one, not the shroud with built in stickshift). Mill the rail off the shroud and bolt on the stickshift. Then put on an Aimpoint or Matchdot or dot of your choice. Thats how most of them are set up, either with the Piatt, or Gilmore shroud with the rail milled off and stickshift. Edited June 9, 2015 by DWFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Thanks a lot guys, I just got off the phone with Kelly. I wasn't sure if they still made them since their website is down, but indeed they do. I'll be ordering one shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I would suggest checking on the warranty and doing some reading on the reliability of them. Maybe buy two so you have a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I would suggest checking on the warranty and doing some reading on the reliability of them. Maybe buy two so you have a spare. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 In all fairness. Doug seems to have good luck with his. I only saw one fail this year. Luckily it was only at the Flagler Cup and not Bianchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfieldshooter Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Just do a search on this forum for Gilmore Scopes. Also check dot size 4moa is the biggest you should have IMHO. +1 on a mover base and the choice of scope is always yours. Coatesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the heads up guys. Kelly informed me that they have 2-year warranties, which also gets renewed after a rebuild from them. I know they can be finicky, but I will rarely be running the mover dial back and forth so I'll take my chances. Again, a mover base is ideal, but I'm really wanting to keep the gun completely intact, or at least in a state where modifications are reversible. The gun belonged to the late Rhonda King, an Aussie who moved to Columbia, MO because of AP shooting until she lost her battle with breast cancer in 2003. She was one of the best female shooters, who placed top 3 at Bianchi. Next week I'll be shooting the Cameron Cup which is dedicated to her good friend and fellow Auzzie, John Cameron. The story of how the gun came into my possession is a long and strange one. It shoots lights-out though, benched groups at 25 for 6 shots were way sub 1/2". Edited June 12, 2015 by RippinSVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I will be at the Cameron Cup. Please look me up. I would enjoy visiting with you and seeing the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I am sure Doug's Gilmore is exactly the same as all the others that you can buy . But as long as my ass points at the ground I am not buying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Thanks for the heads up guys. Kelly informed me that they have 2-year warranties, which also gets renewed after a rebuild from them. I know they can be finicky, but I will rarely be running the mover dial back and forth so I'll take my chances. Again, a mover base is ideal, but I'm really wanting to keep the gun completely intact, or at least in a state where modifications are reversible. The gun belonged to the late Rhonda King, an Aussie who moved to Columbia, MO because of AP shooting until she lost her battle with breast cancer in 2003. She was one of the best female shooters, who placed top 3 at Bianchi. Next week I'll be shooting the Cameron Cup which is dedicated to her good friend and fellow Auzzie, John Cameron. The story of how the gun came into my possession is a long and strange one. It shoots lights-out though, benched groups at 25 for 6 shots were way sub 1/2". I can understand why you'd be reluctant to change the gun, given it's provenance. However, from what I've seen on here Warren's shrouds, incorporating the mover base, could be the way to go. If you get it undrilled (if that's a possibility) I'm sure you could retrospectively fit it to your gun, so you could keep the original mount un-altered. I've never used a Gilmore, I would imagine that there are people who haven't had any problems, just as there are people who have. I thought John C was a kiwi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 John was a Kiwi. Him and Rhonda both moved the CoMo for AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Auzzie with the z's denotes New Zealanders...or so I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) calling us an auzzie is like calling a Canadian a yank Edited June 14, 2015 by wanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 I'm regurgitating what I've been told by others, I'll try to get it right! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Edit: I suck at internetz. Edited June 15, 2015 by RippinSVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Had the pleasure of shooting with and meeting many of Rhonda's friends at Cameron Cup today. Talked to Bruce Piatt extensively about the gun, and he insists I'm better off with a mover base as most of you said. I'm still on the fence about it, but I'll probably get in touch with Warren and do it and keep the original Tasco dot. This gun is insanely accurate, but ive got a feeling these Open guns have a long learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 About 10 years or grey hair, or both. I have done both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckpetree Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Where can one get a stickshift mount from? I am trying to get back into shooting and would like to add this to my 686. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Call 913-422-8966 and ask for one. Give your shipping address and preferred method of payment. They come in black (anodized) and silver (bare aluminum). The revolver one is a no gunsmithing bolt on. There are also wings available for stock 686 barrels. The barrels vary in size. There are 2 basic sizes (width) which are .720 and .770 with minor variations of each. Some file fitting may or may not be needed. The wing requires a hole drilled and tapped in the top of the barrel. With these 2 parts you can have a very serviceable open gun for a pretty cheap price. Use the other $3000 you would have spent on an auto for practice ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Chuck, I went with the Protocall Stickshift after all (this is an older post), and it was worth it. Do it. Edited November 29, 2015 by RippinSVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckpetree Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Thanks guys. I did find my Gilmore scope with the dial for the mover. I will probably use it this year and see if this old man can still play this game. I can move to the stick shift from there. I do think it makes more sense in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Best Regards Chuck. Hope to see you at the playground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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