f2benny Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 So how crazy is this? I've been sitting a Glock 34 for a few matches, but just got a modded CZ 85C this week. I tested it out with a box of ammo and it worked fine but the rear sight was cranked was up. The f.o. front sight was too big and I had a correct height Dawson so I put that on last night. Now I'm thinking is crazy to use this new set up in a match but I'm dying to shoot this guy. Is it nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Whatever floats your boat !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Level 1 match? Go for it. Nothing like a trial by fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmo412 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I shot my open gun in the first match this season with it shooting about 8 inches left and 4 inches high at 10 yards....came in second place. It's basically just using "Kentucky windage" very quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I'm thinking is crazy to use this new set up in a match but I'm dying to shoot this guy. Is it nuts? YES. No reason not to get out to the range and test it first - use something else until you can testfire the gun/ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Dude if its s club match go shoot and have fun . If its off just hold over/under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 I did use it. Snuck over to a unoccupied range to check sights. Was doing fine right up to the dq. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbeef54 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 what happened... share so others can learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) I used to this sort of thing all of the time. I just install the sights and even them up as best as possible. Then I would draw and punch out and see how close the sights are and adjust accordingly. I get amazingly close, lol. Edited May 24, 2015 by himurax13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 what happened... share so others can learn [emoji27] It was an Idpa match, with a stage that required holding a briefcase in the weak hand. There were some targets down range of some stacked barrels. The case was awkward. I was shooting around the left side first. I put my right shoulder toward the barrels and after shooting lowered the gun to the ground and turned left and was called on the 180. I realize that I had planned to gave the barrel and lean left, but for some reason I didn't want the case between me and barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Here's how it looked. So stupid. That walk of shame of the range is rough. DQ: https://youtu.be/xhqSNfhcsE8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its not stupidity. Its lack of respect for the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Let he who has never been DQed cast the first stone !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its not stupidity. Its lack of respect for the sport.Please share more of your valuable insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its not stupidity. Its lack of respect for the sport.What means this?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its not about DQ per se. Its how one got DQed. First the OP shot his unzeroed gun in a match. Next he got DQed in a rather uncomplicated cof. If one has healthy respect for this sport its paramount to qualify himself on the minimum level of skills and equipment required. This is a dangerous game. Not child play. Insisting on doing his thing inspite of... does show very low regard for this sport. Even if done just for fun. If one loves this game then by all means respect it. Newbie or not. Pls, no offense intended. I just cannot absolve it for "stupidity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyTargetRN Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 And you turned your back to a "potential aggressor" if we consider the sprit of IDPA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Hey, guys, I think he knows he screwed up at this point. Yes, it looks bad. Lighten up. Learning moment. Bet he never does that again? Pretend there is a big bungie cord on the muzzle of your gun, always pulling it down range. You cannot do a spin with a bungie cord on your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) Here I was thinking this was the beginner forum! Yeah clearly this was a learning experience. Some stages lend themselves to a 180 and I focus on that in my mental prep. It never even crossed my mind this time. I just recall getting into an awkward position with my shoulder to the barrels then lowering the gun to turn to the other side of the cover, then realizing what I did. I still have to think that's stupid. Edited May 24, 2015 by f2benny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Here I was thinking this was the beginner forum! Yeah clearly this was a learning experience. Some stages lend themselves to a 180 and I focus on that in my mental prep. It never even crossed my mind this time. I just recall getting into an awkward position with my shoulder to the barrels then lowering the gun to turn to the other side of the cover, then realizing what I did. I still have to think that's stupid. Im sorry if I disappoint you with your expectation here as a newbie. What happened can only be learned. As you stated in the beginning of your thread, its a crazy idea. But if I were your buddy, knowing your intention to shoot a match, I would have helped you with zeroing your gun. I would help you with some informal info and training to learn the safe techniques until I was confident in your skill level and safety habits. I would be with you at the match proper and walk you thru each of the cofs. I would advise the RO/SO that its your first match and to assist you more than anybody to ensure you finish every stage safely. I noticed in your video that the SO was so far from you to assist if needed. Whenever I RO a newbie I stay close to him enough to physically prevent him to break 180 or sweeping himself. Im most concerned with the shooter accidentally shooting himself or anybody in the range. Again, its not just the DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2benny Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Thanks. It was the second match I've shot in idpa, so I'm definitely in it to learn. I don't think the gun was a factor, it was zeroed in before the match and is an easy shooter. I'm a fair shot, but have to get used the setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoShooter Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I gotta say, that was a "textbook" 180! I also have to give respect to the RO who caught it quickly. It shows he was watching the gun. Despite the varying degrees of how hardcore some of us think it is, there are always going to be 180's in our sport and I would bet that he learns from this and won't do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) I gotta say, that was a "textbook" 180! I also have to give respect to the RO who caught it quickly. It shows he was watching the gun. Despite the varying degrees of how hardcore some of us think it is, there are always going to be 180's in our sport and I would bet that he learns from this and won't do it again. Im sorry to disagree. If the SO was aware and positioned near the shooter, the shooter couldnt have turned 360 with his loaded gun. Hardcore? Imho Safety in our sport is strictly black n white, theres no varying degrees in between. So a 181 is less unsafe than a 190 and we should react accordingly? I cant buy that. Edited May 24, 2015 by BoyGlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Sounds like the Rough Part of the learning curve is behind us So, a little more practice, and you're all set to have an awful lot of fun shooting IDPA. :bow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 He did not go 181 or 190, he spun 360. Not sure what we are arguing. He was DQ'ed for safety, like he should have been. There was no gray area. Could/Should the SO have caught it before he spun all the way around.... yes. But it happens so quick on the clock. As far an SO or RO being there close enough to physically stop a shooter from breaking the 180..... I can see that going badly, the physically grabbing of a guy with a gun in his hand (maybe even with his finger on the trigger) during the course of fire. I think the correct action is a very very loud "STOP!" No one is saying the shooter should not have been DQ'ed. And not everyone is fortunate enough to have a buddy willing to help. These forums can do a lot to impart some of that knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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