jerryz Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 When I scored 8# of WIN 231 last summer I figured I was set for life. Well, my life seems to be going by a little faster than I expected. I'm down to my last pound, and, that won't make 6 weeks. I've tried to find HP38 (which looks to be the same in the load manuals as Win231), WST and WSF (which I've never used but someone said they liked it). I've checked Powder valley, Gunbot.net, and of course Midway and Brownells, as well as all the local Scheels, Gander Mountain (which never has anything even back in the good 'ol days) and Cabela's. Nothing. I suppose I could try something totally different, but, I all my recipes and my Dillon are very happy with Win 231 and changing powder means a lot of work. Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Anyone hear any rumors of more powder on the way? I'm starting to get nitrocellulose withdrawals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItZallGooD Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I have seen more of the Alliant stuff lately. My local shop had some 231 but it was $29 a pound and $118 for 4lb's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Recobs has WSF http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/2,151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armydad Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Gamaliel Shooting Supply also has WSF. It's about $1 more for 8# than recobstar. Gamaliel has free shipping. I've never bought from recobstar, so don't know what they offer in the shipping department. Hazmat is the same it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinyerface Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Gunbot is too slow to update, it can't be trusted. I ordered a case of Federal primers from one joint before Gunbot even had them listed. HP38 is EXACTLY the same product as 231 according to Chris Hodgdon. I got bit by unavailable components once. I now stay considerably ahead on my inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I'm still using some WW231 from decades ago but from reading BE, I'm seeing some brand new powders that didn't exist when I hunted buffalo on the prairie - CE or CB something or other - and some others .... some of them sound pretty good, and available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I was at the Richmond, VA gun show this weekend and saw more Alliant powder there than I have for the last two years. One dealer I chatted with said it was sporatic but at least he was starting to get some in. Prices are high as you may expect but I saw Bullseye, HP-38, and even Power Pistol on the shelves. I've also seen BE-86 showing up both at gun shows and at local dealers so you may want to consider buying a pound or two of that or another powder until you can snag more HP-38 or W231. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 Thanks all. I'll keep watch on recobstar.com and hold out until critical to make the change to wsf. I see that Gamaliel has a watch list. I suppose I'm one of a million on it, but, it's still another option. Thanks for the heads up there (I've never heard of them before,) Thanks for the confirmation that HP38 is the same. It's good to have another brand to watch for, just in case Hodgdon comes back before Winchester. I hear ya on staying well stocked, but, I thought I was. Funny how the anti's scream over "arsenals" (aka 1000 rounds). If I go below 1000 rounds of any particular caliber I get nervous. I do have an old jar of Bullseye that I can use in an emergency. I just really don't want to change my loads and change my dillon. That said, any good recipe for WSF to make major on a 230 FMJ? Thanks a lot for all the good info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Powder valley has 4 lb kegs of wsf in stock this morning. Midsouth has VVn310 in stock. Either would serve you well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin16 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Extremereloadingnv.com Has powder in spurts just have to check daily . It s frustrating !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Will WSF work for 9mm? And, I found some Power Pistol, but, I have no experience with it. Does anyone have any info on this, esp, as it compares to WIN231? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Ronin16, Thanks for the link to extreme reloading. I added my name to the waiting list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Local dealer just got a couple bottles of Power Pistol. I have no experience with that. How does that stack up to Win 231? Versitile for 9 & 45? Meter consistency? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Recobs has Winchester Autocomp and Hogdon CFE Pistol, I use either for both 9mm minor and major. I like them better than 231. http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/2,151.html Edited May 23, 2015 by Bkreutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mele Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 3rd Gen has Longshot in stock. Powder Vally has HS-6 in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 Thanks for the list of dealers. I typically just use midway and brownells, which has worked well in the past. But now, times are different. I managed to get 4# of N310 out of midsouth. Thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev1911 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 8# of HP38 (same as Win 231) in stock: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Hodgdon-HP38-Spherical-Powder-8/productinfo/081HP388/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryz Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 OMG!! I Scored. I got my nitrocellulose fix for the season, and I was down to only what's left in my Dillon tube. Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It looks like they've got plenty of powder. But it also looks like they love it too much to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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