IntenseImage Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 For the past few years I have shot M&Ps almost exclusively. This past weekend I decided it was time to add a Glock to the safe and picked up a 35 Gen 4. This will be a USPSA Limited gun and potentially used for 3Gun with a 9 conversion barrel. I have been doing a lot of reading about upgrades and haven't yet seen an answer to this question ... Is there a Glock trigger upgrade out there that would give me a very similar feel to the Apex FSS kit for the M&P? I am thinking Vanek Super or a JohnnyGlock job may be it, but wanted to check in with those who have more experience with them Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 You cannot go wrong with either of your choices. The Johnny Glock pick is more versatile because of the many different choices you can make with his personal service but either one would be a great choice. I have both and they are both excellent trigger systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefish Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 You may want to check with Charlie Vanek about the availability of his Super trigger kits. I've checked a few times on his website and the Super kit has been out of stock for a considerable time now. The Vanek Classic GM kit with adjustable pre-travel is in stock or at least that is what the website shows. It might pay to talk to Charlie about the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 ^ I actually just sent an email about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A lot can be done with the stock trigger, if you're mechanically incline, and is comfortable working on the trigger bar. No need to drill anything to install adjustment screws. Bending the trigger spring arm, outward, can reduce the pre-travel. This allows the trigger arm to hit the housing sooner, thus less travel. Will need to modify the "safety" ledge on the back of the trigger. Would also need to mod the safety plunger tab to allow the plunger to engage properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'd also recommend taking a look at the DK Custom Triggers. I have one and it's been 100% reliable and feels fantastic. I've been through 3 other fairly expensive triggers from other makers that felt almost as nice, but all of them had reliability problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Well ... Super is off the list: From Vanek: Some of the parts I use for the Super Trigger Kit are not available anymore. I have a few built now using some different parts and the trigger is OK but the trigger break seems a little mushy (too me) and has a little longer reset. I’m thinking about dropping the Super completely since all it offers is reduced pre-travel and the Classic is the better trigger all around with customers that don’t have a problem with pre-travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoShooter Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Look up the .25 cent Glock trigger job. Takes about 20-30 minutes and is surprisingly effective. For a good drop in I personally run the Zev Ultimate trigger kit. It's pricey but a good drop in kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoss Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) I sent you a PM. My new NEXT GENERATION GROUPS have some amazing refinements and over a year of solid R&D. These Custom groups are mechanically flawless, functionally reliable, and consistently predictable. If your looking for no "MUSH" how does 1/16th wall to glass rod break travel with matching 1/16th reset sound- did I mention 2.25# break weight with a 4.5# striker spring and if your a Federal only loader 2# with the 4# striker spring. Even though I love Glock think of it this way a Lotus turbo engine dropped into a Chevy. Check your messages my friend Edited May 11, 2015 by BigBoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Thanks ... We load CCI so can't go super light on striker. Will be giving you a call soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Follow me at my vendor page or click the link in my signature. All I load are CCI primers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Follow me at my vendor page or click the link in my signature. All I load are CCI primers I'll have one of these DK Custom Triggers in my G34 very soon....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Either go with taran tactical kit, or if you want to go full trigger group, go with dk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I upgraded both of my G17s by shooting over 100,000 rounds thru each gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW174 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I've got two of the DK Custom setups. One in a Gen 3 34, the other in a Gen 4 19. Both are outstanding. Highly recommend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I've tried 3 different brands. DK is the best and it worked right out the box no adjustments were needed and mantains all the safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtimelarry Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Vanek makes an Outstanding Kit. Charlie's been doing Kits for 15 Years and is Very Knowledgeable plus he's a Grandmaster Shooter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipper046 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I like the EDGE trigger from glocktriggers.com ran right out of the box...about 3.5# trigger (guestimate...), adjustable pre-travel and over-travel, & breaks like glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I've got a zev in mine and like it a lot. It's helped me but may not be for you. It's lighter pull than the apex I think but the apex has a more positive reset in my limited handling of the apex equipped m&p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I like the EDGE trigger from glocktriggers.com ran right out of the box...about 3.5# trigger (guestimate...), adjustable pre-travel and over-travel, & breaks like glass Pre travel in the edge used to set not adjustable. Did the change that recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggenF15 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 +1 on the DK - great trigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmob50 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 For me anyway the 25 cent trigger job is a waste of time. Zev is a good drop in trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybooboo Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I just ordered a DK Custom kit for my gen 4 34. Time to see what all this hype is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fishnshoot Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I have the zev connector and spring kit in my gen 4 19. Polished up some of the internals and it's great. Same deal with my gen 4 34 open build but that trigger is even better since a gunsmith had really worked on it. I had the Glocktriggers edge kit for a while in a gen 3 34. Was decent, but the zev ultimate was better. Will be trying a dk kit next once I get another glock to put it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quag Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I have shot with a glocktrigger.com in competition for about a year. I like the reset, but the pre travel is long and break is still mushy. So I bought a OC drop in trigger group which has a pretravel adjustment and a reset adjustment. I'm not that happy with it. There is somewhat of a cleaner break (but its still not great) compared to the glocktriggers group but the reset sucks its longer than I would like. I have a call into OC to see what I'm doing wrong. So I'm at a match and I try a guys G34 gen 4 and he put in something call a ghost connector/group and said he filed the sh&t out of this and that. Boy was that thing is clean the break was so sharp and the rest was excellent. So there has to be a way. So I'm back in the market, everything I read on the trusted Enos Forum, says don't waste your money on Zev Fulcrum group (even though it has excellent reviews) but go with the DK Custom Trigger Group. Can any one explain the differences between the two and what you are specifically getting or not getting. I have read the spec sheets and everyone says they make a after market trigger that feels like a 1911 (not). I am really interested in your opinion on the feel. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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