a matt Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I only load .38 sc which one if you had a choice of 1050 or 650? I shoot about 2k a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvc4you Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 1050, 38 súper die in station 1 and undersize die in station 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I have both, like both. If money is tight get the 650 before an LNL if you intend to load in volume. If it keeps you from a few trips to the ttity bars to buy a 1050, you will be better served by your dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 True, long after those mammaries are gone you will still have your 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't have a 1050 though I would love to try one. I do have a 650 and it is really easy to load 700 to 900 rounds and hour of pistol. Your talking 3 hours work a month excluding any case gauging, boxing, tumbling, primer tube loading etc you do. I am told by people with bullet feeders on 650's they are much faster like 2000 per hour. The 1050 does not have the no BS warranty either since it is a commercial machine if that matter to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I reckon go 650 and bullet feeder. That setup is around the same or less than a 1050 without one. The big benefit of the 1050 is swaging on press which you will never need for 38sc. If you ever want to load another calibre all the change over bits cost more and take longer on a 1050. 400 rounds per week (your volume) is less than 30 min work on a 650 with bullet feeder. I'd go 650, case and bullet feeders and consider an rf100 to speed up the primer pecking time. As others mentioned you get the lifetime parts warranty on 650 but not on 1050. If your volume was say 5,000 a month. I'd perhaps reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 1050 with a MBF my friend. You will never regret that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I've had both with a bullet feeder. 1050 wins hands down. No matter how many rounds you make you will spend half the time doing it on a 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 This discussion is quite timely for me. In to hear all the responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelindsey Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 With the warranty it's a no brainier get the 650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 1050. I have owned 1050s for 20 years. Never needed the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Build4u Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I have both, my 1050 is vey early, no issues. The 1050 has no backstroke to prime and you adjust the primer anvil for the appropriate primer seating depth. never a high primer. 1050 has larger loaded cartridge bin. No strong mount for the 1050 is needed or available. If money comes into play the 650 works well and as someone mentioned would be tempting with a bullet feeder for higher volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 1050. I have owned 1050s for 20 years. Never needed the warranty. Me neither. Even for loading 50,000+ a year on the same 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelindsey Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Brian, your doing 50k rounds a year? That's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinginlead Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I have both and I would take a 1050 over the 650. I like my 650 for doing my smaller loads for stuff I don't shoot that much but I really wish I had another 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jriggs Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 go with the 650. if you get it set up correctly with a Mr Bulletfeeder you'll be able to crank out your monthly needs in just a few hours. I have both and the 650 set up with the bullet feeder will run 1000 an hour without any issues. all you gotta do is either load up primer tunes early or buy an RF-100 to do that job. the lifetime warranty will really pay it's weight in gold if you ever have any major failures later on down the road. just call em up...and they'll send out parts right away. the 1050 is really nice...but that comes down to output...it does a few more things such as swaging but unless you need to crank out the volume. lastly...the caliber conversions for the 1050 are a decent bit more painful to swallow when you start loading different stuff. (especially when you factor in the $175 for bullet feeder conversions) in the end the 650 really is usually the better fit. hands down the 1050 is a little cooler and has a bit of a WOW factor...but I still love how easy it is to run my 650 for so many different calibers. best of luck...you won't go wrong either way! riggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 FWIW The GSI bullet feeder includes a machined billet tool head, makes it a pretty good deal on the 1050 as a regular tool head from Dillon is $200 by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnettcw1 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I had two 650's, one for 9 and 40 with Mr. Bullet Feeders. Great machines, probably 25K on the 40 and 10k on the one in 9. I traded the 40 one for a 1050 about a month ago. After putting the MBF on the 1050 and loading a couple thousand, well, my second 1050 will be here next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michmalo Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Realistically speaking......the 650. But...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBateman Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I have never owned a 650, I have a couple of friends who do and they're quite happy with them. They look like good machines. I have two 1050s with MBF fitted to both, I would not consider going to a 650. If you can swing the funds go with the 1050. You won't be sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 650 with MBF. Get 10 primer tubes then spend the spare cash on reloading components and entry fees. An hour a week on the handle will give you plenty of quality ammo to blast off on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwall64 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Just out of curiosity, besides the primer seating on downstroke and the swaging, what else is "better" on the 1050? I have a 650 setup only for 10mm, shooting between 1,000 and 2,000 a weekend (which I can maintain a good stock level with just a few weeknight sessions). I was thinking of another 650 for all the small primer work (9mm & 40), but this thread has got me interested in a 1050 for the 10mm and let the existing 650 do the other work. I have not invested in a bullet feeder yet, but was looking at the mini MrBullet Feeder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 8 stations vs. 5 stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1629 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 MrBullet Feeder would be a huge improvement but I would go with the regular one with the collator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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