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Stoeger M3000/M3K desired loads


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Since the original M3000 is epically long I thought I would start a new one with the M3K hitting the market to get opinions on what type of loads people are putting through their M3000/M3K.

Hoping that those who posted their opinions in the long thread can take a moment to post what they have been using in this one; what works and what doesn't work and keep this thread's focus more narrow for search-ability purposes.

Thanks for any input!

(Of course is the mods don't like that I'm sure I'll know soon enough...)

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For general purpose practice and local club matches, I use Federal bulk from Walmart, 7-1/2 or 8, 1200fps 3dr-eq 1-1/8oz shot. Others that have worked well-

Remington game loads, 1oz @1290

Remington Nitro Sporting Clays 1300fps, 1-1/8oz #7-1/2 shot (my go-to for major matches, always runs 100%)

Remington Pheasant loads, 1-1/4oz #6 Good for steel at distance

Kent Fastlead (something ridiculous like 1-1/2oz at 1450, GREAT for spinners!)

Slugs-

Federal Truball, 1oz@ 1300. Good accuracy and 100% cycling

Speer Lawman 1oz@1200

Aero 1oz (7/8oz don't always cycle)

Pretty much any slug 1oz@1200 or better will run all the time, test to find what gives best accuracy in your barrel and buy a case.

These are things I have tried personally in my guns as well as my son's. We use the Federal to test-fire every shotgun before it ships. You may get one short stroke ejection failure every 3-400 rounds with this, unless the gun has been slicked up for light loads. With the proper mods, they will cycle from the very first shot without Stoeger's recommended "break-in" with heavy shells.

What HASN'T worked-

Estate cheapos- consistent short-stroke failures. Looks like an FTE (empty in the ejection port, next round is on the carrier), but is caused by barely making contact with the ejector. Sometimes a whole lot will have sufficient power to run the gun, and then the next batch will have 70% cycling failures. Lot-to-lot variations are significant.

Winchester Bulk 100packs. These have a rounded rim, and don't extract well from inertia guns. You can see the difference holding one up next to just about any other brand of shell. A few customers report that their Stoegers will run it, but definitely an exception to the rule.

Bargain priced RIO low base shells. The higher powered RIOs with high base brass have a different rim stamp shape, and work OK. But the low base ones are underpowered, inconsistent powder charge, and have poor extraction due to the rim shape.

These are not hard-and-fast rules, but represent what we have seen over a sample size of 300+ shotguns in general terms

How is that for a start?

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Mine, as built by Tom, will cycle pretty much anything 2 3/4 and up and the 7/8 Aero slugs all day long. The slugs I just use, for shot shells I use 7 1/2, 1 1/8 at 1200 Remington gun clubs for the margin of safety in matches. Have yet to have a single round of 3dram ammo not cycle, but I think I only put a 3 cases of ammo through it since I got it

It will not cycle the really crappy Rio's and Estates with any degree of regularity.

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Remington STS and Winchester AA 2 3/4 dram shells run for me. Federal Walmart bulk packs run too.

B&P slugs will not cycle the action on my M3000. Going to try the Fiocchi 7/8oz next.

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I can run the cheap Federal Target stuff. 1145 velocity 1 1/8 oz #8 and when I need to run #7.5 I run Winchester AA 1145 velocity 1 1/8 oz. I polished my mag tube, stoned the bottom of the carrier and lapped the raceways just enough to slick them up and have around 2500+ rounds through it and it's run like a top.

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Remington STS and Winchester AA 2 3/4 dram shells run for me. Federal Walmart bulk packs run too.

B&P slugs will not cycle the action on my M3000. Going to try the Fiocchi 7/8oz next.

B&Ps wouldn't cycle in mine either. Fiocchi and Remington Managed Recoil slugs ran fine.

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I have just run RIO 2-3/4 Dram 1 ounce in mine and it ran just fine. Also the 7.8 oz Fiocchi Slugs work.

Obviously everything heavier seems to work so far as well.

Anyone else miss the days when we were supposed to run real loads? 3-3/4 Dr 1-1/4 oz loads of #6 and also 1-1/8 #4?

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  • 3 weeks later...

For those who have fired the Stoeger M3000/M3K, how does the recoil compare to a Remington versamax? I would imagine the Stoeger would be similar to an M2, same basic system and all.

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To me, the M3000 recoils less than the M2, but more than a VM.

Slugs, 7/8ounce Fiocchi, Rem low recoil Sluggers, Federal low recoil TruBall all ran fine. The Xtremes run well and hit about a foot higher at 100 than the others.

Birdshot, the 2 3/4 dram loads from Federal, Winchester and Remington all work. The Remington Gun Clubs are the cheapest ones I will run in a match, and they have been 100% reliable. We have run 2 2.5 dram loads as well without issue, but that is a tad risky for a major IMHO.

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Here is the real advice, don't test your ammo at a match. Especially, don't test slugs at a match.

Now that is just wrong. Everyone knows the following things are mandatory; Clean your guns the night before a major match, change all mag springs the night before a major, use a new batch of powder and heads for a major and no testing. Also it is always a good ting to go to the sight in range and screw around with your zero when you only have a couple minutes before the range closes to start the match. THen of course you always want to try the new Mexican or Chinese place for dinner the night before the match.

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Anyone run Remington managed recoil 1 oz slugs in their M3000?

I've shot exactly one box of them through mine. They worked fine, but I saw no reasons to switch away from the Aero's I normally use.

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Other than with a pump I have never shot a match with anything less that 3 dram loads. Maybe I could be a "contender" if I ran the

lighter stuff, but will not tempt "inertial gun fate" running loads below the threshold for 100% reliable operation. I do that because I may be

just a tad more aggressive in how I run a shotgun, than others. That works against the lighter loads functioning.

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Anyone run Remington managed recoil 1 oz slugs in their M3000?

This is what I use, mainly because they're available at the Gander Mountain near my house. They shoot POA at 50 yards out of my gun.

Slugs aren't used very often in the matches I go to, so I haven't shot a bunch of them. No hiccups through about 5 boxes, though.

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I have to admit that so far I have had a grand total of about 4 FTF with my S3k. All with slugs, Fiocchi low recoil. And one interesting issue last week, the last round fed out of the tube onto the lifter, but didn't cycle into the action. Maybe I should clean it? Nah!

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