Gdub Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) So I live in Michigan and I have a manufactures rep that owes me $500.00 for a little sales contest. He can't give me cash and I have to submit an invoice. I thought of using that for a private training session. I'd like to keep it within driving distance. MI, OH, IN, Since I grew up about 40 min south of where Robert Vogel lives I thought of him. Is there anyone else I should look into? Here's my situation and what I want to accomplish. I just got everything put together to shoot Production. I've done some dry fire and mag changes and a few live fire sessions. I haven't shot a match yet. I feel my grip, stance, trigger control is pretty solid. I'm used to reloading between 5,000 and 10,000 rounds a year so I'm set in that department. I spent 18 years in Cowboy Action Shooting where I was consistantly in the top 10 over-all when I would attend the world championships and won a ton of state and regional matches. It took a lot of dedication to stay at that level so I know and enjoy working at something to get better. I would've never got to this skill level if I wasn't taught how to practice. "Practice don't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." So that is what I want out of this training session. When I go to the range and shoot 300 rounds I want to learn something. So I want to learn drills, dry fire practices. ect ect ect Should I do this right off the bat? Will it be worth the money? I know there are a lot of good books out there. I just would really like that one on one experience. That is what helped me the most in CAS. Sorry for the long explaination. Edited April 19, 2015 by Gdub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Vogel, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Ben Stoeger's 2-day 'Skills & Drills' class is specifically designed to teach you how to train using the appropriate drills. he doesn't teach technique in this class. he usually wants the students to be solid B class shooters to take the class but given your background i would think you'd probably be ok ... contact him to see what h says and look for a class in your area on his website. haven't taken a class from Vogel but i've taken 2 from Ben .... you won't be disappointed .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Vogel should do fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillGarlandJr Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Either of them would be good. I've taken classes from both of them. Both classes were a ton of fun and I walked away with some ideas and approaches to training that have benefited my shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJE Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm a Ben Stoeger book reader/user but if you're within driving distance of Vogel, I'd go with him. I have spent a day at his range and found it very useful. I want to go back again sometime this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Vogel is a great guy so he should be fine. However, if it was me, I would go with Ben. Ben's classes are very refined and has the structure you would need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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