Will_M Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I've seen some guys shoot from this position by hanging the magazine off the lip of the ramp and pulling the magwell into the ramp with their support hand. What's the advantage to this way vs resting the handguard on the lip or using the magazine as a monopod? I wish I had some pictures to explain what I'm describing. Edited April 16, 2015 by Will_M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It really depends on what the Roof prop is made and the Angle. Resting your Handguard on the edge is usally a more sturdier position with my shooting knee pushed into my shooting elbow, but for most roof top this can only be accomplised with a 20rnd mag as a 30rnd is to tall. I'll anchor my magazine over the edge when I find that the slope is to steep or if the materal on the roof top is too slick and I have to shoot over the roof to be able to see the targets. If I can see all the targets, don't slip on the material but cant rest my handguard on the edge, I'll monopod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I shoot mine with the handguard on the top and on the same side of the roof angle as I am. I do use a 20 round magazine for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I like to hang my magazine over the far side of the roof if at all possible because: 1) It is often faster to get into position 2) It stops me sliding backwards 3) It is much easier to get BOTH elbows down 4) I can run a longer magazine I sometimes shake my head when I see the contorted positions people get into just so they can rest on their handguard... "I have a free-float handguard - I am going to use it dammit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I like to hang my magazine over the far side of the roof if at all possible because: 1) It is often faster to get into position 2) It stops me sliding backwards 3) It is much easier to get BOTH elbows down 4) I can run a longer magazine I sometimes shake my head when I see the contorted positions people get into just so they can rest on their handguard... "I have a free-float handguard - I am going to use it dammit" ^^^This^^^ your weight and gravity literally locks you in place. Only time it's not great is if there are really wide target transitions. Then you need try to ease up on how much weight is pulling back on the magwell or you'll be stuck. If you pay KurtM $400 and take his rifle class he'll teach you this too. Way better then the 20rd mag handguard on the top trying not to slide off the roof top stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushmeat Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Depending on how the ridgeline is shaped, it can also crush a few knuckles on your trigger hand. You are locked in place, though. So, you might want to just take the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrmock Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I am trying to picture what the 'magazine over the edge' looks like. Does this mean the rifle is actually resting on the trigger guard? So the handguard does not actually touch the roof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I am trying to picture what the 'magazine over the edge' looks like. Does this mean the rifle is actually resting on the trigger guard? So the handguard does not actually touch the roof? Yes. But it really depends on the angle of the slope and what the top is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHolliday1 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'll need to try this. I have been doing the "side saddle" where my left hip is resting on the roof top. It does work well with wide target transitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makdaddy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 funny , i just saw this particular issue on "Shooting USA" last night .. scroll down to see rooftop placement photos... http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/USAMU8-2Obstacles/usamu8-2obstacles.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 funny , i just saw this particular issue on "Shooting USA" last night .. scroll down to see rooftop placement photos... http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/USAMU8-2Obstacles/usamu8-2obstacles.html Good stuff, thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 yes thanks, I don't think I've seen anyone do that (mag on other side of rooftop) before and will definitely give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I saw someone do that a couple years ago and it blew my mind, haha. Been doing it ever since. Allows me to run longer extended magazines and get both arms down on the barricade/roof/prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 if the roof prop has cleats would you still hook your mag over the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I thought I once saw a roof with the "other side of the peak" on it. Now that's a sick prop guy. I like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmob50 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 funny , i just saw this particular issue on "Shooting USA" last night .. scroll down to see rooftop placement photos... http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/USAMU8-2Obstacles/usamu8-2obstacles.html Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennJeep1618 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) I've only had to do it once, and I didn't get an opportunity to try different positions before hand. So, I ended up using my magazine as a monopod and resting the handguard on the peak. I'm not sure if this particular rooftop would be conducive to hanging the magazine over (using a 30rnd or larger) because I think the rifle would end up being too high (this rooftop had a partial "other side"). I did end up sliding backwards while trying to get in position, but it wasn't a problem once I got prone. Paused video still: Video of the stage (starting at the rooftop position): https://youtu.be/JogsdTeEmn0?t=2m27s Edited May 15, 2015 by TennJeep1618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadleyOwens Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I've never tried the mag over the top thing but, I do have two 20 rounders coupled together with ranger plates on them. You can lean into the rifle and really clamp down on the forearm. Just my .02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 At our club the rooftop prop is pretty tall and has foot stops to mount and climb it. Some people take the time to go all the way up however I usually shoot from a reverse kneeling position. Having the rail clamped to the apex of the roof allows the gun to slide laterally and transition targets very quickly, having my strong side leg elevated allows me to brace my strong side elbow on my knee, and since I'm only climbing 2/3 of the way up it's very quick to mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Different strokes for different folks, but if I was the RO and you "Mounted" a prop on my stage I would DQ your ass before you could even get your pants down. I am all in for personal freedom, but that sort of thing is "unsportsmanlike behavior" for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Different strokes for different folks, but if I was the RO and you "Mounted" a prop on my stage I would DQ your ass before you could even get your pants down. I am all in for personal freedom, but that sort of thing is "unsportsmanlike behavior" for sure. Too damn funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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