bikerburgess Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm assuming that is humor My point was things change and we make mistakes, that's why we have to cite a rule when we make a call that negatively affect a shooter. Sometimes you go to look up the rule and find its not what you thought and you make the correction and move on. As long as everyone acts like a grownup about it it's no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It's also pretty common for some of us that have been arround the sport a while to remember the way a rule used to be in a previous rule book. There are many small changes in the various editions over the years and it's easy to quote now defunct rule languageThat's why you should be required to take a week-long refresher class at uspsa hq every time a new rulebook comes out. Problem solved by more regulation and organizational overhead!! What other problems can we solve with big government today? what's wrong with Big Government? You sound like a republican .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I try to learn from my mistakes As do many people. But that doesn't mean we should pull the pin on making the standard harder as you suggested. Besides, most of the bad calls we read about on Enos have to do with scoring, procedurals, or being told something is not legal. Not things for safety infractions (barring that video of the RO not ensuring the range was clear before starting the next shooter). If an RO makes a bad call and DQ's somebody for something the rules say is OK. Shooter goes, dafuq? RM should get called if at a major match, and should catch it and over rule the bad call. That's the check and balance we have in the current system. At a local club match I ask that I (as MD) be informed of any DQ's. If nothing else, I am going to want to hear what the DQ is for and the applicable rule (something I've learned working majors). This leads to opening up the rulebook to check ourselves. That's the check and balance for the local match. And we just be a podunk lil' club in Idaho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepelepew Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I try to learn from my mistakes As do many people. But that doesn't mean we should pull the pin on making the standard harder as you suggested. Besides, most of the bad calls we read about on Enos have to do with scoring, procedurals, or being told something is not legal. Not things for safety infractions (barring that video of the RO not ensuring the range was clear before starting the next shooter). If an RO makes a bad call and DQ's somebody for something the rules say is OK. Shooter goes, dafuq? RM should get called if at a major match, and should catch it and over rule the bad call. That's the check and balance we have in the current system. At a local club match I ask that I (as MD) be informed of any DQ's. If nothing else, I am going to want to hear what the DQ is for and the applicable rule (something I've learned working majors). This leads to opening up the rulebook to check ourselves. That's the check and balance for the local match. And we just be a podunk lil' club in Idaho... It is good practice at local matches to note the rule number on the scoresheet when there is a DQ. Again for the reason you stated, to open the rule book and inform the match staff. Also to insure the ruling is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I try to learn from my mistakesAs do many people. But that doesn't mean we should pull the pin on making the standard harder as you suggested. Besides, most of the bad calls we read about on Enos have to do with scoring, procedurals, or being told something is not legal. Not things for safety infractions (barring that video of the RO not ensuring the range was clear before starting the next shooter).If an RO makes a bad call and DQ's somebody for something the rules say is OK. Shooter goes, dafuq? RM should get called if at a major match, and should catch it and over rule the bad call. That's the check and balance we have in the current system. At a local club match I ask that I (as MD) be informed of any DQ's. If nothing else, I am going to want to hear what the DQ is for and the applicable rule (something I've learned working majors). This leads to opening up the rulebook to check ourselves. That's the check and balance for the local match. And we just be a podunk lil' club in Idaho... It is good practice at local matches to note the rule number on the scoresheet when there is a DQ. Again for the reason you stated, to open the rule book and inform the match staff. Also to insure the ruling is correct. It's not just a good idea, it's the law. 10.3.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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