Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 After I changed the sear, I can't get the sear housing back in the frame. It won't fit far enough back for the safety to go in. Do I need to file the sear down or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The sear housing will fit. Pull back on the hammer ever so slightly and it will scoot back just a hair. Hold it in place and reinstall safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 The sear housing will fit. Pull back on the hammer ever so slightly and it will scoot back just a hair. Hold it in place and reinstall safety. When I do that, the trigger doesn't work. It only releases to the half cocked position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) If you installed the sear correctly, installed it into the sear housing correctly, and got it to go into the frame and installed the safety...only thing I can think of is to check your overtravel screw and make sure it's not too far out and not letting the trigger go back far enough. Someone with more experience than I will have to answer beyond that point. What sear did you put in it? Edited March 26, 2015 by Prov1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niroth81 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Push the top leg of the sear down (to rotate the back of the sear up) and it'll slide back. Pulling the hammer back a little can help also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 If you installed the sear correctly, installed it into the sear housing correctly, and got it to go into the frame and installed the safety...only thing I can think of is to check your overtravel screw and make sure it's not too far out and not letting the trigger go back far enough. Someone with more experience than I will have to answer beyond that point. What sear did you put in it? It is a one piece. It drops to half cocked every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 EGW one piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niroth81 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The leg portion on the top of the sear on the left is what you need to push down as you slide the sear back. It's dropping to half cock because the sear is jammed on the hammer and isn't lifting with the trigger pull. As you install the sear pay attention to where the sear face touches the hammer; it needs to clear the portions of the hammer that the sear engage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah, it's still just dropping to half cocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Oops, I was thinking of my limited gun when I spoke about the EGW sear. Post below explains it. Edited March 26, 2015 by Prov1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) We had this discussion on another post. That sear is for a single action gun. It doesn't have an arm to engage the firing pin block. At least if what I am seeing in the photo is correct. Is this a EGW sear for limited and open guns? It looks the same. http://www.benstoegerproshop.com/EGW-Hard-Sear-for-EAA-Tanfoglio-Limited-Open-p/egw-sear.htm Is that the one you purchased? WJM Edited March 26, 2015 by WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 I've got the factory sear back in. DA works fine but SA doesn't catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ugh. Anyone have any idea why SA won't work now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 That doesn't look like the EGW sear I know of. Yes it's missing the bump for the FPB but on the EGW sear I have where that bump/leg should be is just a spacer looking piece (it's all 1 piece though). his sear looks different. Sometimes we get lucky and parts are 100% drop in. sometimes they need fitting. I just did the henning gear on my open gun. Trigger went into frame nicely as did trigger pin (sometimes both need some fitting). but then trigger would not quite reset with factory hammer and sear (even with overtravel screw all the way in). so I went ahead and fitted the EGW/henning sear. first of all it was too wide for the sear cage! yes I had to file down the spacer side just to get it in. Got it in and hammer would now bounce to half cock after dry fire. remove it all again and clearance the bottom of the hammer. That problem fixed but now with the length of the new sear hammer will not cock (ie rotate far enough for the sear to catch the hooks) by cycling the slide by hand. if I push down while cycling it will catch and it works 100% in live fire. still haven't fixed that one (can really only be solved by shortening the sear and recutting the sear angles = pain in the arse of a job!). so, if something is not working you need to look at what has changed? think about how the gun works, how the trigger resets etc. why is single action not working? when hammer is cocked and you pull the trigger does the sear lift at all? do you have the pre-travel or overtravel adjusted? if not have you tried adding in more pre and over travel? did that solve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 PS, I feel your pain. it can be frustrating when it doesn't go right the first time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 The hammer simply won't catch if I try to cock it. Whatever, I'll practice the DA draw until the xtreme parts and new sear come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ahh ok. So when you rack the slide the hammer is not rotating far enough to let the sear drop into the hammer hooks? Have you tried it in live fire? have you tried cocking the hammer by hand? I had a similar problem with my EGW sear and EGW hammer. Cycling the slide by hand the sear would not catch the hammer hooks. cocking by hand worked fine. It was such a tiny amount that if I pushed down on the slide as I racked it it would catch. I tried it in live fire and it worked 100%. It was basically either hammer slightly too short (not getting pushed down enough by slide rail), play in slide, or my feeling is the sear blade is too long (longer the sear blade the further the hammer has to rotate to get caught on the sear). In live fire everything is working hard so it worked fine. but was a pain for unloaded starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 ahh ok. So when you rack the slide the hammer is not rotating far enough to let the sear drop into the hammer hooks? Have you tried it in live fire? have you tried cocking the hammer by hand? I had a similar problem with my EGW sear and EGW hammer. Cycling the slide by hand the sear would not catch the hammer hooks. cocking by hand worked fine. It was such a tiny amount that if I pushed down on the slide as I racked it it would catch. I tried it in live fire and it worked 100%. It was basically either hammer slightly too short (not getting pushed down enough by slide rail), play in slide, or my feeling is the sear blade is too long (longer the sear blade the further the hammer has to rotate to get caught on the sear). In live fire everything is working hard so it worked fine. but was a pain for unloaded starts! It doesn't cock by hand either. The two piece sear is a PITA to put in, and I'm sure I just put it in wrong. The parts will be changed as soon as they come in, so no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvincent Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I had a similar problem with my EGW sear and EGW hammer. Cycling the slide by hand the sear would not catch the hammer hooks. cocking by hand worked fine. It was such a tiny amount that if I pushed down on the slide as I racked it it would catch. I tried it in live fire and it worked 100%. It was basically either hammer slightly too short (not getting pushed down enough by slide rail), play in slide, or my feeling is the sear blade is too long (longer the sear blade the further the hammer has to rotate to get caught on the sear). In live fire everything is working hard so it worked fine. but was a pain for unloaded starts! What did you do to fix this? Im about to get Hennings EGW sear/Hammer kit. I dont want to have to work the sear face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 you need to use this kind of sear... https://www.lastroundarmament.com/product/eaa-9-1-1-piece-sear/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 This is the sear I have on the way. http://www.ericgrauffelonlineshop.com/en/frame-parts/46-sear-lever.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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