stockton Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 I am looking at getting a Simmons Pro-Diamond for the TX State 3-gun mainly due to Benny's recommendations on this forum. My question is has anybody tried the 32mm ILLUMINATED model? I know you give up some FOV, but I am trying to figure out if the illumination is good for daylight and would of more benefit than bigger FOV since even the 32mm ILLM model looks like it has pretty good FOV. Benny, pleaase chime in and tell me what to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 It's DAYLIGHT. get the 20mm w/ the big field of view. no need for the other because we don't shoot at nite [ yet]. you will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockster96 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 I have my new prodiamond scope 1.5-5x20 sitting in front of me as I type this. I will be going into a set of Leupold PRW medium height rings on top of an accuracy speaks riser. I will post some pics when I get it set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 I got mine,(thanks Benny!) will put it on tomorrow and shoot it Sat. I hope! TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmccrock Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 They're cheap ... buy both ... let us know! This year I am going to a match which will have a night rifle component, so I may need something like that, and I do not want to spend an arm and a leg. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedale Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 I have one on my M1A for tactical class (and pull it off for HM). I bought it based on the Benny Hill recommendation here. It's the grits! Go for the big FOV. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockton Posted February 18, 2005 Author Share Posted February 18, 2005 20mm not illuminated it is! Thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dghboy315 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 i just wanted to make sure i'm looking at the right optic. the recommendation is the Simmons ProDiamond 1.5-5x20mm shotgun scope model #899608 http://www.simmonsoptics.com/page12/SimmonsPage12.html is this right? it is designed for turkey hunting w/ a shotgun? also, is there a recommendation of how to mount the scope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Yes,Yes&Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dghboy315 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 ok, so what do you recommend to mount the scope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 If you have the regular flat top use either the std warne rings with a riser or the Rock River 1 piece mt. or the extra hi warne rings. If you have a flat top with the built in riser use the std. warne rings. You can also use weaver see thru rings but they are not very strong.-----Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockster96 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I am planning on using a Young Manufacturing riser that I won off a prize table and Leupold med. prw rings to mount my scope. Should hopefully work okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosby Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Where can I order the Pro Diamond online? What are the best rings for mounting on the carry handle of an old SP1? I already have the insert on the handle that accepts Weaver style rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerjg Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Where can I order the Pro Diamond online? Midway.com has them in stock, as does Rifle Scopes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Thanks, that is great info. Has anyone tried the 32mm same scope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 On the 32mm, the field of view sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 thanks benny, I ordered the 20mm. I need to talk to you about building me a 9mm. will call next week, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I have mounted my Simmons 1.5-5 on my DPMS and I love it. It is fast(for me anyway) . Benny's comp also really helps keep my rifle on target. I can highly recommend both the scope and the comp. Thanks for the help Benny. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmoore Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 On the 32mm, the field of view sucks. What he said! I've had both in hand and 20mm is way to go. I also got a lit reticle version in my hand at a Galyans/Dicks Sporting goods. I was wondering if the lit reticle might act a bit like a dot on the hose'em stages. It washed out completely in the light of the store, so I held no hope of even seeing red in the daylight It seems it's made for hunting turkeys in the dusk! Oh the nerve ..... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmoore Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 While I'm here, I found a Luepy 1-4x. I was curious if the true 1X would make it any faster. It was ~260 at another local Dicks. In the store, it appeared very bright. Of course it doesn't have the diamond (which I've really grown to like!). Even cranked down to 1x, it still seemed to mag a little? Also, I don't think I'd be any better 2 eyed shooting as my instore rifleless handling seemed to have my eyes pointing at slightly different points (I couldn't cofocus on the same spot). Maybe I'll "buy" it and mount it lightly on my rifle and see if it fares any better sitting actually on the rifle. I think their return policy is pretty good, but I don't know if I'll bother as I really do like the Simmons quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Been lurking here for a while. Saw the posts about the Simmons ProDiamond in 20mm objective to be used for fast acqusition - 73' FOV is pretty impressive. However, I was wondering what you all thought of the following: Bushnell Banner 1-4x32, Circle X reticle, 78.5' FOV at 100 yards, 25' FOV on 4x with a 4.3" eye relief. Also: Bushnell Trophy 1.75-4x32, Circle X reticle, 73' FOV at 100 yards, 30' FOV at 4x with a 4.1" eye relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Greywolf, the banner is pretty low quality, I'v tried the trophy and its just ok. The simmons is better.-----Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 While I'm here, I found a Luepy 1-4x. I was curious if the true 1X would make it any faster. It was ~260 at another local Dicks. In the store, it appeared very bright. Of course it doesn't have the diamond (which I've really grown to like!). Even cranked down to 1x, it still seemed to mag a little? Those Leupolds are actually 1.6X at the low end. They are not true 1X's. It looks like the only true 1X Leupolds are the Mark4 CQ/T's. Simmons should sponsor Benny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Now there's a man with good sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 I guess I'm just having a hard time deciding. I don't have the ability to check them each out. On paper, it seems that the Banner is the best for my needs. 1x-4x, I like the Circle X reticle, and it has a 78.5' FOV at 1x and 25' at 4x Bushnell makes good optics. Next it would seem the Trophy is nice - Circle x reticle, 73' FOV at 1.75x, 30' at 4x, with a 4.1" eye relief. The Simmons . . . well, it has a 76' FOV at 1x, which is good. And a 23.5' FOV at 5x, which is pretty nice considering it is 5x instead of 4x. Does the Simmons really have better clarity, contrast, light gathering, etc. vs. the Bushnell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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