igolfat8 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I have a chance to buy a used Colt competition model AR in 5.56. I was told these are no longer in production and were only made a couple of years. It was made by Colt and not a contract supplier. Its stripped down to a basic flat top with no optics. Are these decent quality for my first AR (~$640) or should I buy a S&W Sport for ~ the same money? The portion of the barrel that extends past the hand hard appears to be a slightly discolored which may indicate it has been over heated? Or is this normal or even a concern? Were these bbls chrome lined? Oops, I posted this in the wrong sub forum. Mods, please move this to the correct sub forum. Sorry... Edited March 11, 2015 by igolfat8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I don't know what colt competition you are looking at for $650. The cheapest colt competition line rifle starts around $1,200, Used should be around $900ish. http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/colt-competition-firearms/ Edited March 11, 2015 by Maximis228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Is this what you are talking about? Or something similar? Colt AR-15 Match Target Competition HBARStill in the box never fired.MODEL: MT6700NAME: Match Target Competition HBARFINISH: Matte blackACTION: Semi Auto, Gas operated, Multi-lug rotary locking boltCALIBER: .223 RemCAPACITY: 9 RoundsBARREL LENGTH: 20”RIFLING TWIST: RH. 1 Turn in 9”RIFLING GROOVES: 6TRIGGER: SmoothFRONT SIGHT: Adjustable post for elevationREAR SIGHT: Adjustable for windage and elevationSIGHT RADIUS: 201⁄4”WEIGHT: 8.5 lbsOVERALL LENGTH: 39”SPECIAL FEATURES: Removable carry handle allows for scope mounting$950.00 OBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think he is referring to this: http://www.cdnnsports.com/colt-csr-1516-5-56-16-mid-wt-bbl-free-float-1-30.html#.VQBTFvnF-4I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Its says "Light Carbine" on the lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) What do you know of the seller? The Colt Light Carbine is not a "competition" rifle, except that any rifle can actually be used in a competition. Perhaps because it has a "match trigger?" That, too, is a non-standard relative term, and considering how badly a Colt standard trigger sucks, I question how much of an improvement would be significant to be considered "match" for them. Now, all that said, I'm not dissing the actual rifle itself, for its intended purpose. Indeed, it would serve as well for many carbine matches as any other off-the-shelf AR. And it's a Colt, which means something to some people, though it shouldn't mean nearly as much as it used to. I've seen these Light Carbines on sale, new, for as low as $750 at times. There should also be a model number on the receiver. A Light Carbine would probably be LE6900. That is the most useful information that can be included in your question. Edited March 11, 2015 by MAC702 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Its an out of state gun store which I know nothing about. The dealer just mentioned it just as another option to consider, in the same price range as the S&W Sport model. He said the Colt trigger was stock mil spec. My budget for my first AR is around 600 and the Sport keeps surfacing to the top of my list for new rifles. Decisions, decisions... Edited March 11, 2015 by igolfat8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 ... He said the Colt trigger was stock mil spec. ... Well, the Light Carbine LE6900 comes with a "match trigger," so we still don't have confirmation of what rifle we are dealing with. The dealer didn't give you a model number? Or has this "used gun" been altered in addition to being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Its says "Light Carbine" on the lower. I see the discoloration on the barrel you mentioned. Has anyone figured out what could have caused that and should it be a concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The discoloration looks to be poor lighting. The photo showing most of the rifle horizontally doesn't show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The discoloration looks to be poor lighting. The photo showing most of the rifle horizontally doesn't show it. In his first post the OP mentioned the discolored barrel and asked if it was a sign of heat damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The discoloration looks to be poor lighting. The photo showing most of the rifle horizontally doesn't show it. In his first post the OP mentioned the discolored barrel and asked if it was a sign of heat damage. I read that, he didn't say if he saw it in person, or a photo of the rifle. I didn't know if he was buying it from an ad or iface to face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 All I know is what the guy told me over the phone and the pictures he sent. I am leaning towards a S&W Sport instead. There are just too many unknowns buying without seeing it in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I would give a COLT CSR 1516 5.56 COMPETITION SPORTING RIFLE TRY FOR 700.00 if I was getting into things. It looks like someone took a new carbine and is trying to make it look like the Colt CSR 1516. There are also lots of good options out there if you want to try and build yourself an upper for a little more then what you are already thinking of spending. If you were closer I would spin your parts together for a case of good beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I own an M&P Sport. If I was buying an inexpensive home defense rifle, I would buy it again. If I was looking to shoot 3 gun/carbine matches on the cheap, I would probably buy the Colt. To me, free float hand guard and no A2 front sight are a plus in a competition rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Smitty79, Please elaborate on your comment "and no A2 front sight are a plus in a competition rifle". Your talking over my head to a newbee here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The A2 front sight is the big-azz tower holding that little sight post. You don't want this in the way if you are going to be using a low-powered optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Got it. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 We sold those at the gun store I used to work at. Called a Colt Sporter. Nothing special about it, definitely not a 3-gun match AR. Entry level at best with standard mil-spec trigger. Only good thing was the floating hand guard. The A-post front sight is also your gas block.It would be a good starter gun, but you would want to change many things in the near future. If the price was right. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The model 6900 is a budget gun Colt put together as a solution to never offering a "low cost" option for people who didn't want to pay typical Colt prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The model 6900 is a budget gun Colt put together as a solution to never offering a "low cost" option for people who didn't want to pay typical Colt prices I'm hoping this is at least a good set of bones. Buy it, shoot it and then make changes as needed. Not a big deal to change out the barrel in a season or two. Same with the trigger. Most of the competition guns out there shoot much better than their owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StravIs09 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What do you know of the seller? The Colt Light Carbine is not a "competition" rifle, except that any rifle can actually be used in a competition. Perhaps because it has a "match trigger?" That, too, is a non-standard relative term, and considering how badly a Colt standard trigger sucks, I question how much of an improvement would be significant to be considered "match" for them. Now, all that said, I'm not dissing the actual rifle itself, for its intended purpose. Indeed, it would serve as well for many carbine matches as any other off-the-shelf AR. And it's a Colt, which means something to some people, though it shouldn't mean nearly as much as it used to. I've seen these Light Carbines on sale, new, for as low as $750 at times. There should also be a model number on the receiver. A Light Carbine would probably be LE6900. That is the most useful information that can be included in your question. based on the first link the (colt match trigger is 6lbs. i am still laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) My neighbor received his Colt CSR 1516 this morning. Looks quite nice for a sub-$700 AR. The gunsmith he ordered it through was impressed. Upper and lower nicely mated together. Balance is good (may change slightly once he adds an optic). It came with 3 different capacity ProMags (20, 30 and 40?) and 1 30 rd Magpul magazine. Only thing that needs changed is that horrible "match" trigger. He hopes to take it to the range next week and do some accuracy testing. Edited March 13, 2015 by Flatland Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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