WJM Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bought a tanfoglio stock 2, and it is having issues with mags dropping freely. Frequently while shooting the bullet that is in the mag (not the one in the chamber) will get push forward so it is not in its previous place. The bullet is then catching on the front of the inside of the magwell. Essentially the magazine will not drop free unless I pull it out which when pulling it out I believe pushes the bullet far enough back to cause the mag to again clear the inside of the magwell. Is there a fix to this? Do I need to tune my Mas and if so how do I do that? Thanks WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bought a tanfoglio stock 2, and it is having issues with mags dropping freely. Frequently while shooting the bullet that is in the mag (not the one in the chamber) will get push forward so it is not in its previous place. The bullet is then catching on the front of the inside of the magwell. Essentially the magazine will not drop free unless I pull it out which when pulling it out I believe pushes the bullet far enough back to cause the mag to again clear the inside of the magwell. Is there a fix to this? Do I need to tune my Mas and if so how do I do that? Thanks WJM You need to break the face of the disconnector rail and make sure to polish it really well so that you are able to see your reflection. Okay maybe not that shiny but pretty darn close. On the rail underneath the slide, is the part I am talking about, that picks up the bullet and pushes it into the chamber. If it has a sharp, square front edge, then it should be semi rounded and polished smooth. Very easy to do but just don't take too much off of the face, just knock the sharp edge off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Is there such a thing as taking too much material off? I am hesitant to remove too much, so I am in the process of removing a little by little and putting it back together. How much of an angle should it make?Thanks,WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yes...just an angle, I just deleted the pics I took of mine to show a buddy that was having the same issue with his stock 3. Just angle it a bit and put it back together and go slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Here is what I have done so far, should I go further in this direction? So far it has not made a difference at all with this.Thanks,WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Have you really polished the entire rail yet? Use some sand paper to smooth any rough spots and polish it really well. Another thing, do the mags have plus 10% springs in them or are they just new mags? If just new mags, try loading them to capacity and let them sit overnight fully loaded. It may take some tension off the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I polished the entire thing, it is as smooth as a baby's butt. The mags are brand spanking new. I think the gun only has 500 rounds through it or so. Do some live fire today and try it out. Thanks, WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLx Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 How did this work out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I took it down a little more on the bevel on the originally sharp part. I had a theory that me racking the slide wasn't enough speed or force to accurately put a bullet into action without moving the bullet that is in the magazine forward. (Thats what was causing an issue). In live fire it works fantastic. I shot a match this weekend and my father used the same gun. Neither of us had an issue with the gun as far as mags not falling freely. We did have it twice not return to battery with a bullet in it. Almost seemed like the 180gr bullets we used just didn't push the slide back far enough? Thoughts? Anyways to answer the question I was able to solve this issue with minor gunsmithing. Loving this gun just installed the extreme red grips and boy the gun is sexy and accurate!Also anyone reading this have a .40 minor load with 165's? I have Montana Gold's that I am going to try out but also have BBI's on order for this gun. Thanks,WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 What recoil spring are you using? I use a 10 for my 40 minor stock 2. (or is it a 9?) My 165 load is 4.2grains of n320 or thereabouts, with a 165 poly coated bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I am using a 9 pound recoil spring and a 13 pound hammer spring. I also have the stock one, but the gun seems to recoil just fine so I am not too worried about that, the gun just felt a little slugish is all. I may have to look for some N320 right now I have around 18 pounds of TiteGroup that I want to use. Thanks,WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDH Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Also anyone reading this have a .40 minor load with 165's? SNS coated 165gr 3.6gr Titegroup 1.125 OAL 132PF with my Stock II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertLx Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Makes me wonder if you took too much material off the edge, or if it is in fact a weak load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Also anyone reading this have a .40 minor load with 165's? SNS coated 165gr 3.6gr Titegroup 1.125 OAL 132PF with my Stock II Interestingly I get 135 PF on my Lim Pro with those same 3.6gr of Titegroup and a 125gr BBI @ 1.120" OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Correction, I thought it was a bullet not going into battery however we had 1 light strike. Just was such a tap rack I didn't notice until I re-watched it and it shows a bullet coming out of the chamber. Could be because the primer wasn't seated properly. I would say it was because of the primer I was using but we didn't have another issue. Leads me to believe it wasn't quite seated as well as it should've been. I don't think I ground off too much because otherwise it would've happened a lot more I would presume. I could be wrong but it seems to function just fine just had a fluke that really was something different. Thanks, WJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Good to hear, sounds like everything is running well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Meant to upload a final picture of it once it was done and ran completely fine. Have run around 1500 rounds without an issue now, no failures to feed, no mags not dropping free that type of thing. Seems to be running perfect. Last one is next to the old Gat. Anyways just wanted to say thanks for all the help glad to be a part of a community that is so knowledgable about this stuff. Thanks,Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvincent Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Does anyone else continue to have this issue intermittently? I have been plagued by this for the last few months and seems to be getting worse. Limited .40 using Hennings 140mm base pads, grams guts. New mag springs, new mag tubes, polished rail to a mirror, beveled the shit out of the breach face edge. None of which helped initially. I am now thinking that it's not the slide dragging the round forward but the round that's going into the chamber dragging the next round forward, if I watch very closely when closing the slide, the barrel, in unlocked state is lower than when locked, so the round is not up to the top of the breach face in firing position yet until the barrel locks up. I don't know how to remedy that. I thought about filing the extractor to have a looser grip on the case, but everything I've read says you need a firm grip on the case. The only things that seemed to help while racking by hand with dummy rounds is closing the mag feed lips tighter than a factory new mag by .030" I would try to close some more but don't really have a good way to do it. Using brass cases instead of nickel, and not using one shot case lube or tumbling it all off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleman000 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I am intermittently encountering this with my stock 2, any more ideas out there to resolve this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Make sure the inside of the gun is clean and shiny. Polish if necessary. Same with the mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleman000 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have polished the underside rail on the slide, and fresh clean gun still get the second feed round pushed forward half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I meant the inside of the frame where the mag goes into the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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