akeefer Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hey all, I'm looking for a bit of help. I have gotten all the upgrades from CGW for my 85 Combat. When I went to install a CZC Race Hammer & CGW Disco, when it is put back together, 1. The Safetys Do Not Move 2. Hammer doesn't fall forward on it's own. It has to be pushed thru to go forward. Did I assemble this incorrectly? Do I need to do some work on the hammer or the disco? The hammer strut might be the slightest bit bent from a horribly stuck hammer pin, but I was pretty sure that got back together correctly. Any tips? Thanks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 call David as CGW, he is more than helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfd147 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 The safeties need to be fitted since you put in a different hammer. As for the hammer, could you take a picture of the hammer and strut position? Thanks Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeefer Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Well David says to order a CGW sear so we'll see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhart123 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 The CGW adjustable sear makes fitting the safety a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfd147 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 +1 on the CGW sear. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennJeep1618 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) I agree with the posts above regarding CGW's adjustable sear. I had a timing issue with CGW's disconnector when I installed mine where the hammer would fall to about the half-cock position, but not drop completely upon the trigger pull. After calling David, he had me lightly chamfer one of the edges of the disconnector (shown below) and it worked beautifully. I'm not sure if this helps you at all, but it might be something to look into. Edited March 4, 2015 by TennJeep1618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reshp1 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The safety thing is expected. The aftermarket hammers reduce the engagement surface by raising the sear bed as opposed to cutting from the top of the hammer hook. They do this so your trigger still breaks in the same spot, otherwise there would be timing issues. The downside is the safety needs to be fitted since the sear starts in a higher position, a position the safety is normally supposed to keep it from going to. The CGW sear has a set screw to make this super easy. You can fit the factory one by filing too, but it's tedious. Can you describe the hammer not coming forward thing more? When it falls and comes to a stop, can you push the hammer back with the trigger like you can in D/A? If so, your gun is a bit out of time and D/A hasn't disconnected yet when the trigger breaks. Your hammer is falling onto the disconnector nub. The fix is either to chamfer the front bottom edge, or take a little off of the bottom surface. If your trigger isn't moving the hammer when it stops, it might be your strut binding, although it'd have to be pretty major to arrest the hammer mid-fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeefer Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Ok all, update! Got the CGW Sear installed, safety works, but trigger acts the same. Please see attached video... Do I need to take some off the disconnector??? http://youtu.be/PLTYH7qhn1s Thanks for ANYONE's Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimase Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Honestly, I'd give David a call back. He knows the cz's very well, and since you're using his parts he'll know which direction to point you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Check you over travel screw on the trigger sounds like the hammer may be dragging on the sear (ie not enough sear lift) You may find you can remove the over travel screw all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiethesquid Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Totally Agree with this Dave is great to talk to and really know his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Call Dave befor you do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmeky Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yes, please call for tech support. 318-372-9050. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryorwell Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I just had this same exact problem and CGW told me exacly what to do. You have to chamfer the shoulders on your disconnect and you'll be home free. I still advise you to call them but I am sure that's the problem cause my compact was doing the same exact thing at the end of the pull. I took a strip of 600 grit paper and put the disconnect in a vice and slowly softened the edge of the shoulder on both sides. This is on the what i call the inside of the disco (inside the right angle). Then i did the same thing with a strip of 1200 grit to make it smooth. Once you take off that edge the hammer will fall without any hitch. You don't have to take off much...just round the edge of that shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree with the posts above regarding CGW's adjustable sear. I had a timing issue with CGW's disconnector when I installed mine where the hammer would fall to about the half-cock position, but not drop completely upon the trigger pull. After calling David, he had me lightly chamfer one of the edges of the disconnector (shown below) and it worked beautifully. I'm not sure if this helps you at all, but it might be something to look into. Was this what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennJeep1618 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree with the posts above regarding CGW's adjustable sear. I had a timing issue with CGW's disconnector when I installed mine where the hammer would fall to about the half-cock position, but not drop completely upon the trigger pull. After calling David, he had me lightly chamfer one of the edges of the disconnector (shown below) and it worked beautifully. I'm not sure if this helps you at all, but it might be something to look into. Was this what happened? Looks like it. I can't remember exactly where the hammer stopped. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryorwell Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree with the posts above regarding CGW's adjustable sear. I had a timing issue with CGW's disconnector when I installed mine where the hammer would fall to about the half-cock position, but not drop completely upon the trigger pull. After calling David, he had me lightly chamfer one of the edges of the disconnector (shown below) and it worked beautifully. I'm not sure if this helps you at all, but it might be something to look into. Was this what happened? that's exactly the spot...what software do you guys use to draw in pics like that...very handy! By the way...i had the problem on the original disconnect and not the CGW part but i did have the new sear installed which makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Very weird. I have a brand new CGW Disconnector and CGW race hammer in. 350 rounds no issues. Then today at the range it happens every DA pull. I just got the production legal CGW hammer Im going to install first to see if its action the same way. Any advice on rounding that edge on the disconnector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian97 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 FYI check your Trigger bar retaining spring screw before chamfering the Disco. Lose retention screw will cause this also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeefer Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 FIXED IT! Fyi, it was the hammer strut that fixed it. Replaced it and it works. =P Thanks! Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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