dlee14 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm wanting to motorize my RL1050 and need recommendations on which motor to use. I want single phase and i'm guessing 1/4hp, reversible and 20 rpm. Does it matter if it is angled or in line drive? Does it need a electronic brake or clutch? Does someone have the model number of the Oriental Motor unit and a recommended source to buy the motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) No clue on motor number, but if you buy Oriental brand name, you're going to pay a small fortune. For what you'll spend on that, you could buy any number of "other" brand motors for around $100-$120, probably less than a third of the cost of the Oriental. Do yourself a favor. Get a 50:1 or 60:1 gear driven 3-phase motor (208-240VAC), and an Automation Direct GS1 or GS2. Total investment will be around $300.00 for motor and drive. Oh, source to buy the motor... Ebay. Edited March 2, 2015 by Brassaholic13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Here's the motor I'm using now (bought it from this Ebayer): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sumitomo-Hyponic-Drive-50-1-Gear-Motor-1-4-HP-Model-RNFM02-23L-B-50-/181311476251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3701921b With a Ponsness-Warren auto-drive copy, it will get you a max of 2160 Rounds per hour. Then you'll need to mate a Dalton 225 OSD (Overtorque Safety Device) to the motor: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=dalton+osd&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.A0.H0.Xdalton+225+osd.TRS1&_nkw=dalton+225+osd&ghostText=&_sacat=0 And finally the VFD: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Drives/GS2_(115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control)/GS2_Drive_Units_(115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC)/GS2-10P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Assuming you don't have 3-phase power, which phase converter are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Assuming you don't have 3-phase power, which phase converter are you using? You don't need a phase converter. The vfd converts 110VAC single phase to 208-240VAC 3-phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlee14 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 i watched the video on the VFD and my brain almost exploded; its too much for me to handle. I need to keep it simple and want a basic motor with geared reduction, clutch would be nice also. Anyone have a recommendation for a 110volt single speed motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Check Ebay for a 1/4 HP 110-120VAC 50:1 gear motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 i watched the video on the VFD and my brain almost exploded; its too much for me to handle. 110v in line and neutral two wires and 3 wires out to the motor. Push one button to start and twist knob to adjust speed. If you can buld the rest of it that will be the easy part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigs Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 35 pounds is enough torque for even rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanners Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Here's the motor I'm using now (bought it from this Ebayer): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sumitomo-Hyponic-Drive-50-1-Gear-Motor-1-4-HP-Model-RNFM02-23L-B-50-/181311476251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3701921b With a Ponsness-Warren auto-drive copy, it will get you a max of 2160 Rounds per hour. Then you'll need to mate a Dalton 225 OSD (Overtorque Safety Device) to the motor: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=dalton+osd&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.A0.H0.Xdalton+225+osd.TRS1&_nkw=dalton+225+osd&ghostText=&_sacat=0 And finally the VFD: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Drives/GS2_(115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control)/GS2_Drive_Units_(115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC)/GS2-10P2 To confirm, you're running the PW copy single phase motor on the 3ph output of the above VFD? How have you got it wired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) No you get a 3 ph motor it will have 3 wires for power input, they go to the VFD. Then you take an unplugged 110 plug and wire it into the VFD. The "box" does some tricky stuff to the frequencies and voltages that enable you to operate a 240v 3ph motor from a 110v single phase power source. Edited November 7, 2015 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanners Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Thanks I thought as much however Brassaholics post I quoted shows a link to a 1ph motor (PW copy) and a VFD... very confused.. lol Does anyone have a link to a 3ph replacement for the PW motor - ie to use the existing gearbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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