Sporky Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I wondering what wight and brand of recoil spring you guys use on your edge or edge pattern 2011? I am shooting 40 major if that helps. I am thinking that even when I rack the slide, it seems a bit stiff. I have just over 1000 rounds through it and I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steele Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Search Use the search function above right hand corner. Type in a phrase like you do with google. This has been covered many times so you will get plenty of reading in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 13, 2015 by Scott Steele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Search Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Or answer....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steele Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Most anything has been covered and so there are many informational threads on this forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roons Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 ISMI 1911 Recoil Springs - Chrome Silicon http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/ISMI-1911-Recoil-Springs-Chrome-Silicon-P398.aspx I've tried 12.5 and 14lb. Everyone has their own preference, but I liked the 14lb since I had the tightest groups when running Bill Drills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottlep Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 14lb Wolff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nice! Thanks to those who replied! Are you also replacing the firing pin spring as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nice! Thanks to those who replied! Are you also replacing the firing pin spring as well? I buy Wolff reduced power 12 lb recoil springs. Replace them every other month (5000 rds) The package comes with a firing pin spring so I replace it for the hell of it, don't know that it is necessary. Shooting leatherhead 180's at 172 PF with ETR-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshine402 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Yeah I hear ya but I figure Wolff knows more about springs than I do, and they wouldn't give away random stuff for no reason so I put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Sorry i'm new to the 2011 so I have to ask all the noob quesitons. Yeah I am thinking that when the slide cocks the hammer, that is a pretty stiff resistance for sure. SO.....should I do all of those things at once, or should I do one at a time and test each seperatly? Yep I have seen that youtube video about a million times already! Good stuff! You guys are awesome thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshine402 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Test one at a time? I use a 17# mainspring btw.. some people go down to 15#. I know a single stack shooter who prefers a heavy mainspring (21# ?) and a really light recoil spring.. less force on forward movement of slide... I would think that one might run into feeding problems with too light of a recoil spring.. I guess it is all about what feels best for you and works reliably(obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbagger123 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 i run a 10 in my 6 inch and 11 in 5 inch with 17# main spring. run great with no feeding problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Sorry i'm new to the 2011 so I have to ask all the noob quesitons.Yeah I am thinking that when the slide cocks the hammer, that is a pretty stiff resistance for sure. SO.....should I do all of those things at once, or should I do one at a time and test each seperatly? Yep I have seen that youtube video about a million times already! Good stuff! You guys are awesome thanks! Yep there are a lot of variables and each thing you change effects others. There is a lot to learn. For what it's worth amigo here is a starting point for a stock edge, not lightened, shooting 180 gn major ammo at a nominal 170 PF. 12 lb Wolff reduced power recoil spring 17 lb main spring ( hammer spring ) Standard firing pin spring This is a very common set up for an edge pattern gun Change the recoil spring every few thousand rounds If you have any issues with light strikes, after you have ruled out hi primers/ bent or burged firing pin consider an extended firing pin such as Dawson's or limcat xl. Hopefully this can give you a starting point, learn from here and enjoy yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Sorry i'm new to the 2011 so I have to ask all the noob quesitons.Yeah I am thinking that when the slide cocks the hammer, that is a pretty stiff resistance for sure. SO.....should I do all of those things at once, or should I do one at a time and test each seperatly? Yep I have seen that youtube video about a million times already! Good stuff! You guys are awesome thanks! Yep there are a lot of variables and each thing you change effects others. There is a lot to learn. For what it's worth amigo here is a starting point for a stock edge, not lightened, shooting 180 gn major ammo at a nominal 170 PF. 12 lb Wolff reduced power recoil spring 17 lb main spring ( hammer spring ) Standard firing pin spring This is a very common set up for an edge pattern gun Change the recoil spring every few thousand rounds If you have any issues with light strikes, after you have ruled out hi primers/ bent or burged firing pin consider an extended firing pin such as Dawson's or limcat xl. Hopefully this can give you a starting point, learn from here and enjoy yourself Done deal....I am ordering the recoil spring now. I don't know what the stock mainspring is.....so do you think I should get one with that exact weight? You Guys Rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunone Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Not a hundred percent sure, but I think the firing pin spring that Wolff sends with the recoil springs is the extra power ones that they recommend. Since most of these 2011 and lots of 1911 are series 70 guns with out the firing pin block the extra power springs give you a little more inertia protection if you drop the gun muzzle down. (But I have been known to be wrong, just ask my wife. ) Edited February 17, 2015 by shotgunone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Not a hundred percent sure, but I think the firing pin spring that Wolff sends with the recoil springs is the extra power ones that they recommend. Since most of these 2011 and lots of 1911 are series 70 guns with out the firing pin block the extra power springs give you a little more inertia protection if you drop the gun muzzle down. (But I have been known to be wrong, just ask my wife. ) That IS the reason for going to an XP Firing Pin Spring, but the reason why they include one with every recoil spring (instead of just selling them separately) is that the procedure espoused by Bill Wilson, Ed Brown, Richard Hienie, et. al., is to replace both the recoil spring and firing pin spring at a 5,000 round interval. Since they're both "due" at the same time, it makes sense to package them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Not sure what the firing pin spring has to do with the recoil spring... If anything, the mainspring might affect your recoil a bit as the slide cocks the hammer... I use a 12.5 in a tri-topped, lightened slide.. there is also a good youtube video out there by Nic Taylor (spelling?) on tuning your 2011 recoil spring. Sorry i'm new to the 2011 so I have to ask all the noob quesitons.Yeah I am thinking that when the slide cocks the hammer, that is a pretty stiff resistance for sure. SO.....should I do all of those things at once, or should I do one at a time and test each seperatly? Yep I have seen that youtube video about a million times already! Good stuff! You guys are awesome thanks! Yep there are a lot of variables and each thing you change effects others. There is a lot to learn. For what it's worth amigo here is a starting point for a stock edge, not lightened, shooting 180 gn major ammo at a nominal 170 PF. 12 lb Wolff reduced power recoil spring 17 lb main spring ( hammer spring ) Standard firing pin spring This is a very common set up for an edge pattern gun Change the recoil spring every few thousand rounds If you have any issues with light strikes, after you have ruled out hi primers/ bent or burged firing pin consider an extended firing pin such as Dawson's or limcat xl. Hopefully this can give you a starting point, learn from here and enjoy yourself Done deal....I am ordering the recoil spring now. I don't know what the stock mainspring is.....so do you think I should get one with that exact weight? You Guys Rock! The weight of the mainspring does have an effect on recoil impulse as does the shape of the bevel on the firing pin stop. I do not recall the OEM spring weight, I know the 17 is lighter than stock. To answer your question, yes, I believe the 17 is a good way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetalJacket Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I bought Wolff springs but haven't tuned my gun yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 I ordered some wolf 12lb springs yesterday so we will see how it goes....I will report back with how it feels. I was looking for the weight of the stock STI Edge mainspring yesterday but I didn't come up with much.....I will try it with just the recoil spring and see how that feels. Thanks for all the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunone Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 From STI web site under the FAQ it says that all 5" .40 have a 14 lb recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 From STI web site under the FAQ it says that all 5" .40 have a 14 lb recoil spring. Good looking out! I don't care what they say about you........I think you are a solid guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 From STI web site under the FAQ it says that all 5" .40 have a 14 lb recoil spring. Doesn't the edge come with a recoil master heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporky Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 I haven't broken mine down that far yet to check. But I have a Dawson's tool less guide rod coming with my wolf spring so I will be able to say for sure on Friday when they get to my hot little hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The problem with the Extra Power firing pin springs comes when you use a light firing pin and rifle primers, not always ignition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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