matts2k Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I've read a good bit saying that it's very hard to make major with 9mm in the TF Gold V12 barrel due to the large number of holes in the barrel. Has anyone tried running 9mm major ammo through the "factory" barrel? It only has the hole in the top of the compensator. Is that crazy? Thanks! Edited February 10, 2015 by matts2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) It's not that crazy, I had a comp come off in the middle of a stage and finished with no comp, it was stout, but not the end of the world. I would expect to to beat up the gun a lot over an extended period though. Here's what I did with a spare Gold Team barrel and a Stock II slide: Edited February 10, 2015 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts2k Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 That's awesome. Did you cut that yourself? Why do you expect more wear with this barrel? Because it will produce higher pressures and more recoil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I had a gunsmith in CO do the work for me. In general compensators dissipate a lot of the energy before the slide unlocks from the lugs and cycles, the more efficient the compensator, the less stress on the gun. 9 major with no compensator ports is hard on the gun, one port is less, two ports is less still... The other issue is the more gas you're losing out of holes in the barrel the more powder you need to make major, so not all "9 major" is created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts2k Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 is there a way (other than intuition/experience/testing) to come up with a good number of ports/holes for a given load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) is there a way (other than intuition/experience/testing) to come up with a good number of ports/holes for a given load? The problem is that the load required to make major changes as you drill holes in the barrel, so there is no "given load". The two port comp used on the V12 Gold Team leaves much to be desired which is why there are 12 barrel ports to compensate (pun intended). Two holes in the barrel at 12 o'clock seems to be a popular choice with many builders, just like this 2011 I recently picked up: A good comp is crucial, and a few holes in the barrel give it a little extra down force. The trade-off on a long comp is the weight, a long heavy steel comp makes the gun steer like a battleship, but this one by Binary Engineering is Ti and really light. Edited February 10, 2015 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernelofwisdom Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm also looking at how to get to major (reasonably) with the 9mm GT. From what I've read also going major with the ported barrel is not attractive. I called EAA to see if they have .38 super barrels but they don't. It looks like reaming the barrel is problematic (from the reamer standpoint). Another thought is to drill out the comp holes on the factory barrel and maybe add a couple of popples on the barrel but not the entire line of them. Interested in this discussion for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts2k Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 My thought was to use the factory barrel outright - but kneelingatlas has me thinking I should send the barrel & comp away to be drilled. I like the design of his stock 2 mod above - v ports in the comp and popple holes in the barrel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernelofwisdom Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 My thought was to use the factory barrel outright - but kneelingatlas has me thinking I should send the barrel & comp away to be drilled. I like the design of his stock 2 mod above - v ports in the comp and popple holes in the barrel.... Looks pretty attractive to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 My thought was to use the factory barrel outright - but kneelingatlas has me thinking I should send the barrel & comp away to be drilled. I like the design of his stock 2 mod above - v ports in the comp and popple holes in the barrel.... If you have the second barrel with no holes, I would try to find someone willing to make you a custom comp for it with a more modern design and skip the holes at first, you can always drill the holes later if you want, but a good comp will never hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) There is absolutely no trouble making major with 9mm with the factory barrel. I can do it with 7.4 of Vhit 3n37 with Xtreme 124s at 1.16 oal. Edited February 10, 2015 by Duke Nukem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Duke, did you really mean 1.116" or 1.16"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 1.16 thanks. Duke, did you really mean 1.116" or 1.16"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernelofwisdom Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Any feedback on how it shoots going major with the non-ported barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 atlas! you never mentioned you have been playing with the other team and got a 2011. That looks AWESOME! Love the pocket cuts on the slide, comp looks awesome, and I do like me at least a couple ports in the barrel. did it start as an akai? cheely? all done at binary? love it. how does it shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I had always been curious about 2011s as well as 38 super, so when I had an opportunity I picked up two 2011s in 38, then I got this one in 9mm built by Donny Glock with Jared's comp. The best part about it is it's light weight, this is how it sits today: It shoots really well although I prefer the ergonomics of the CZs and Tanfoglios, the mags are also a real pain. On the bright side it has given me some great ideas... Stay tuned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 dude I love it. I love his slide work. Very reminiscent of the cuts shay akai was famous for only even more modern looking if anything. The comp looks really good and being titanium (as they all should be) will prevent the lead tipped arrow effect. I hear you on the ergo's. I shoot the odd mates limcat, infinity, STI etc from time to time and find getting a nice grip on them is no where near as comfortable in my hand as a CZ or tanfoglio. Even my 1911 which I have for nostalgia as much as anything else is not as comfortable. That is like the perfect 2011 open gun for me. Great comp and barrel ports combo. neat looking slide, Nice stipple job and undercut and decent magwell, sideways cheely mount and cheely racker. just perfect. You are starting to get way too many cool toys! Love the serial number too. So many neat touches on it. The chambers in the comp are HUUUGE. I bet with a good load it'll shoot like shit of a shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 it seems like MBX may now provide a true off the shelf solution for 2011 mag hassles. bit pricey but they seem to be working from the initial feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullwind Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hey Guys, If you want to know more about the Gold Team Tanfoglio or are looking for one, I have mine for sale on guns America. 9mm large frame accessorized. Id put it on here for sale but of the 10yrs or so coming here I didn't sign up until a few years ago and rarely comment. So I don't have the 50 or so replies needed to post. I believe my phone and email is under my profile if you have any questions. Have a great day, BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hey Guys, If you want to know more about the Gold Team Tanfoglio or are looking for one, I have mine for sale on guns America. 9mm large frame accessorized. Id put it on here for sale but of the 10yrs or so coming here I didn't sign up until a few years ago and rarely comment. So I don't have the 50 or so replies needed to post. I believe my phone and email is under my profile if you have any questions. Have a great day, BW Is it the one listed for $2500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFA82 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) I'm also looking at how to get to major (reasonably) with the 9mm GT. From what I've read also going major with the ported barrel is not attractive. I called EAA to see if they have .38 super barrels but they don't. It looks like reaming the barrel is problematic (from the reamer standpoint). Another thought is to drill out the comp holes on the factory barrel and maybe add a couple of popples on the barrel but not the entire line of them. Interested in this discussion for sure. Numrich has a 4.5" 38 Super barrel and a compensated 9x21 barrel listed on their site. Edited February 16, 2015 by USAFA82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) I'm also looking at how to get to major (reasonably) with the 9mm GT. From what I've read also going major with the ported barrel is not attractive. I called EAA to see if they have .38 super barrels but they don't. It looks like reaming the barrel is problematic (from the reamer standpoint). Another thought is to drill out the comp holes on the factory barrel and maybe add a couple of popples on the barrel but not the entire line of them. Interested in this discussion for sure. Numrich has a 4.5" 38 Super barrel and a compensated 9x21 barrel listed on their site. These are not the barrels you're looking for... No really, they're not Edited February 16, 2015 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernelofwisdom Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Even the force cannot conjure up spare barrels! I'm thinking of heading to the garage and trying to open up the comp on the spare factory barrel - do the second port and the holes on the front. Suboptimal, but maybe worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I have a 6" 9mm barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Get ahold of Richard at Canyon Creek custom to remove the comp from the "factory" marked barrel and have him custom make one for you. I hear his comp design is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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