Endall Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I think you are right. The issue may be the lead fouling the throat also. I am going to go over it to make sure it is not drag. With the numbers of rounds fired, any chance a fresh recoil spring is needed? I have three mags with the red follower, all have the same issue with lead fouling the throat. This issue just started in the last 500 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm still running the stock recoil spring in mine after 3K+ rounds. I run GemTech graphite coated lead rounds with no drag, no buildup, no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimpartywagon Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think you are right. The issue may be the lead fouling the throat also. I am going to go over it to make sure it is not drag. With the numbers of rounds fired, any chance a fresh recoil spring is needed? I have three mags with the red follower, all have the same issue with lead fouling the throat. This issue just started in the last 500 rounds. I found that my feed ramp on the barrel had two little burrs that were grabbing any lead they could off the ammo as it was loading... It was a little worse than yours I was getting about 5 shots out before I would have a failure to feed. 30 seconds with a hone and I had that issue fixed, then I noticed that the slide was digging into the sear, and the back side of the slide was hanging up on the decocking hammer... So I made the firing pin block fit the frame better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondakilla98 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Here's a pic of the 22 mag next to a large frame k9 mag. With and without the metal clip. Without the clip they lock in like they should. Unfortunately only one of the three mags I have is reliable. This is a large frame conversion on my witness elite match. The other two mags FTE 1-3 rounds per mag. And the slide gets stuck back like slide lock but further forward 1-3 round per mag. Edited December 30, 2014 by hondakilla98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endall Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I will take a look at these two issues. All three of my mags are doing this. There was an issue when the gun was new. First time at the range fter installing the 22 slide, inserted and it would not frop out. It would move down about a 1/4" and stop. Once home I worked it and it finally came out. Reinstalled and had the same issue. Sent it back and itreturned fixed. The problem was described as a rough surface in the magwell. The 9mm slide and mags worked fine, but those are not plastic mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercooler2 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I remember my old conversion had clips that needed removed to lock them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinyerface Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I got the 22 conversion in. With the lightened hammer spring, I am getting about 20% light strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I didn't remove those clips. What is probably making the slide slow down is the ejector nub on the mag dragging on the slide. I filed down that ejector a tiny bit until it stopped dragging and side then my gun has ran over 3000 rounds with 0 issues. Edited February 2, 2015 by Nealio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 My kit is about a year old. I have it on a large frame 45 compact. It runs flawless even on SV ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinyerface Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm looking to get out of mine, pm me if you are looking for one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxposner Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) I like my 22 conversion on the Match, but get a lot of light strikes. Manually re- cocking sets the round off on the second hit. Any advice? Edited March 5, 2015 by AlphaSeeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I like my 22 conversion on the Match, but get a lot of light strikes. Manually re- cocking sets the round off on the second hit. Any advice? What weight hammer spring? You also might need to polish the firing pin block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Running a 13lb. This frame is used for my 9mm idpa and steel slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yeah with that light of a spring you can get light strikes also issues with it coming out of battery too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What spring do you recommend as minimum for reliable ignition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I ran a 16 since that is what I had (1 coil removed). With my extended firing pin I made I could get a clipped 14 to be fairly reliable, but the chamber would get all gunked up from (I assume) coming out of battery too soon. Once I bit the bullet and went with that clipped 16 it ran literally flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSeeker Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) After switching to an 18lb hammer spring, the 22 conversion is now super reliable. It will do bill drills all day without hiccup. Now if only the 22lr primers would be that consistent. On an SA Match, the higher spring weight isn't an issue.Thanks Nealio Edited May 13, 2015 by AlphaSeeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Nick Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I love my Ruger/Volquartsen MKIII for steel because of it's reliability, but I think I'm getting ready to pull the trigger (sorry about that) on a witness .22 conversion because I really like the way my witnesses feel in my hand. I just point and shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george76904 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The first witness I bought was a witness 9mm and .22 combo (back when they still sold it) but I love the thing! I shot steel challenge and it took some magazine work and decent ammo but I got it to run great. I love the thing. It was finicky at first but it runs well and is a pleasure to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob0 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I just started out with a new 22lr conversion on my Elite Limited large frame. I noticed that I had to remove the magwell to get the mags to fit. Has anyone out there trimmed the baseplate to fit with a magwell? I'm getting intermittent light strikes, and I am using the factory limited hammer spring. This seems to happen a lot with Winchester ammo. The extractor also does not seem to grab well enough. When I try to clear a live round from a light strike the extractor is almost always not able to pull it out. It seems to not have any problem in pulling out fired casings, but i'm sure that it is just barely grabbing on to the rims. The slide has a very noticeable drag for the last 1/3 of slide travel, so it looks like I'll need to do some polishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMateo487 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 This is good to hear. I just got a conversion large frame kit. And I haven't shot to yet. But it will NOT extract unshot rounds reliably. Maybe 1/2 are kicked out. Probably less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 The top of the mags may be dragging on the bottom of the slide. Inspect the mag closely, insert and while pressing down hard on the slide, rack it a lot. Then inspect for shiny spots. You may need to sand the mag to eliminate the drag. The firing pins in the 22 top...not a fan. You may need to INCREASE the hammer spring to get reliable ignition. Wolff has up to 22#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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