jstagn Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Anyone loaded both claydot AND e-3 to compare felt recoil in 40 major? Looking to get as close to Clays as possible. E-3 seems pretty good but may try Claydot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Though I dont load 40 major, Clay Dot and e3 give me a very similar recoil feel in 9mm and 45acp loads with maybe a slight edge to Clay Dot. If it makes any difference Clay Dot seems to meter much better for me using a lee Pro auto disk in smaller charges. I like e3 but now that I have tried Clay Dot I would gladly trade my e3 for it pound for pound and when its time to buy more I will be going with Clay Dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Thanks Dave33, exactly the info I was looking for, now I will try Claydot. I also load e-3 in 45acp and except for the poor metering in my dillion650 it works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I shoot both e3 and Clay Dot in my 45. e3 is waaay cleaner and meters better in my SDB press. I'm actually shooting up the Clay Dot, because I bought it for shotshell reloading when I could get nothing else. As soon as I found e3 and some Solo 1000, I went back to them and the CD just sat. I have about 2-3 lbs left which I'll be shooting for practice over the winter. Then it's back to N310 and Solo 1000 for bullseye and competition. As far as 40 S&W goes, e3 is superb, so I'm hoarding all I have left for that. At 1.126" OAL and 180gr LTCPB bullets, 2.8gr gives me 139PF, 3.1 150PF and 3.6 166PF. When shooting 10 and 20 round strings over the chrono, I have never had an SD in double digits. I'm having trouble finding e3 right now, So I think 'll go back to N340 for major and use the e3 for minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 psst - zzt - quit talking up E3 so much man. I'm not yet at hording status so I want more . E3 is my go-to powder. I use it for everything I possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hello: Those are pretty fast powders for 40 major. Be safe. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I have no issues with Clay Dot. It is identical to Clays. I use it for .40 and .45. I use S1000 and Promo for 9mm. Actually Promo works quite well in .40 and .45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Decided to try some Claydot loads, currently running 3.7 gr E-3 in my 40 200gr blue bullets OAL 1.208 (168pf). What would be the equivalent load in Claydot ? Edited December 11, 2014 by jstagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I'm at 4.0 grs of Clay Dot with a 175 or 180gr lead coated bullet and getting 169-171 PF out of a 5" Akai limited gun and my 40 SS with a bar-sto barrel gets 2 PF higher, the Akai has an Infinity (Schuman) hybrid barrel in it, its a little slower than my other 40's COL 1.200 No signs of over pressure, measured the cases and noting over .0005 expansion and when I reload them they go through the sizer die easier than my titegroup loaded brass does I've only run about 300 rounds of Clay Dot through the 40 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm at 4.0 grs of Clay Dot with a 175 or 180gr lead coated bullet and getting 169-171 PF out of a 5" Akai limited gun and my 40 SS with a bar-sto barrel gets 2 PF higher, the Akai has an Infinity (Schuman) hybrid barrel in it, its a little slower than my other 40's COL 1.200 No signs of over pressure, measured the cases and noting over .0005 expansion and when I reload them they go through the sizer die easier than my titegroup loaded brass does I've only run about 300 rounds of Clay Dot through the 40 so far. Thanks for the info. I will definitely try clay dot when it becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankge Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 e3's pressure curve is much shallower than Clays which spikes pretty quickly. But, yes, both are fast high energy powders. I can use e3 in 9mm where I wont even consider Clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 What e3 load are you using in your 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturdy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 3.7 grains E3 under 200 grain black bullet. 1.180 oal. smoky, hot, safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter190 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Im gonna load up some E3 with a 180gr coated bullet from Lucky 13 and see what i get. Going to try 3.5 thru 4.2 gr and see what i get. I love this powder in 9mm so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter190 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 40S&W Settled on 4.2gr E3 pushing a Lucky13 coated 180gr for an average pf of 171 9mm 3.1 gr E3 pushing same bullet in 147 gr for an avg 135 pf can probably go 2.9 on the 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaikanui Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Just got an STI Edge and ran some chrono yesterday: 67 degress-light humidity 700 MSL 180 grn Berry's rnfp 3.9/4.0 grn E3 OAL= 1.132 Produced an avg, velocity of 915 over 20 rounds... First run through with this gun, so looks like 4.1 grains otta do it for major PF. Second the observations noted: E3 doesn't consistently meter through a Dillon 650 Edited January 11, 2015 by kalaikanui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 9mm 3.1 gr E3 pushing same bullet in 147 gr for an avg 135 pf can probably go 2.9 on the 9mm 2.8 or 2.9 will work but 2.8 is cutting it close. I normally go with 2.9 or 3.0 just have a little extra cushion. My hands can't tell the difference between 2.8 and 3.0 so I'd rather be safe than go sub minor. Second the observations noted: E3 doesn't consistently meter through a Dillon 650 Polish the inside of the powder drop funnel. Take it apart and then polish the inside with Flitz or any other metal polish until it's nice and shiny. I did that on my 550 and it meters e3 very consistently. I polished mine one night while catching up on TV shows that had been recorded on the DVR. Also keeping the powder hopper full helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdy1 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 4.2 gr of e3 and bayou.. does meter rough. gona try your trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Polish the inside of the funnel, are you talking about taking off the plastic powder holder and polish the funnel that it attached to? What about the insert that goes in the die that the powder drops thru??? Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Polish the inside of the funnel, are you talking about taking off the plastic powder holder and polish the funnel that it attached to? What about the insert that goes in the die that the powder drops thru??? Thanks.. Yes. Remove the plastic housing and polish everything inside. I didn't polish anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I polish all of mine like a mirror on the inside and the inside of the insert, I polish the powder bar too but do not take the black anodizing off, it will make the bar wear quicker. The inside of the powder drop funnel can also use some polishing. All of my Dillon measures drop e3 with no inconsistency problems at all. It also makes other hard to meter powders more consistent. The difference is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 How did you polish the inside of the insert, and what did you use????? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The lower part of the powder measure was polished inside with a Dremel and a bullet shaped fob, the rest was done by hand using wooden handled q-tips, I used the Dremel for the top inside of the powder drop funnel and a long brass screw with the head cut off coated in valve grinding compound first to remove all the machine marks down the drilled hole followed with Flitz for the final finish. The powder bar is done with a cotton cloth and light hand pressure. I used Flitz to do mine with but any good metal polish will work. Just take your time and try to get to anything that would offer resistance to those large fluffy flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durdy1 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I just polished the drop funnel tonight. started with medium sand paper then like 2500 grit. Then metal compound then flitz. Also the outside of the funnel with sand paper and finished with flitz. I also did a light polish to the powder bar. Everything is smoother and easier. I set the powder for 4 gr and I was 3.9-4.1 on Dillon electric scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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