Shmella Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 No problems with the gun whatsoever it's awesome, it's set up for major but I haven't shot major yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Pictures?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Elliott Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 HS6 should get you there with that setup. Rather than chasing the ultimate in flat though, you might be better off for now just working up a consistent load with the powder you have and then spend some time just getting used to the gun and its timing. It'll take a while to know if it will hold you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Some discussion here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=194707 Here's my Bedell super shorty shooting 9mm (9.4gr SP2 under 115gr): That match looks real familiar Edited November 27, 2014 by feederic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) edit here we go Edited November 27, 2014 by Shmella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Lots if people use hS6 in 9 major, dirty but nice impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Some discussion here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=194707 Here's my Bedell super shorty shooting 9mm (9.4gr SP2 under 115gr): That match looks real familiar Where you there?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 edit here we go Looks awesome! ~9gr of HS6 under a 115 should be about as flat as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Lots if people use hS6 in 9 major, dirty but nice impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Here's some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRobson Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 HS-6 will work great in that setup. I shot one with a similar setup and the guy was using HS-6 with a 115. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 A super flat gun is harder to shoot well, you need some muzzle rise to call your shots. You want a dot that tracks straight up and right back down to point of aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Ransom Rest results are at the links below. The Ransom Rest demonstrates the physics behind gunpowder selection and bullet weight and compensator function. However, as noted, there might be subjective factors and gun design features that influence a person's preference for a given bullet weight or gunpowder. These are things that are hard to measure and hands on testing with your gun and trigger time. The basics with a compensator: Bullet weight - light bullets have less muzzle rise than heavy bullets when loaded to the same power factor because they require more gunpowder. Gunpowder - a powder that requires more weight for the same power factor produces less muzzle rise. More weight means more gas for the compensator. These principles are reversed when you take the compensator off. Bullet weight: http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/power-factor-recoil-bullet-weight-compensators/ Gunpowder selection: http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/compensators-pressure-gas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeypoker Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Nice info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) ... Edited November 29, 2014 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 IMO, "flat" really doesn't matter. Everyone is chasing "flat". Consistent movement is much more important. I want a gun that recoils in a consistent, predictable manner. The better you get at Open, you really start timing the gun more than anything else. While my gun is very flat, I am shooting by timeing the gun. I already know WHEN the dot will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwontanamo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 what power factor do you recommend for an ideal major load? right around 170 or over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 what power factor do you recommend for an ideal major load? right around 170 or over? If you are asking me, the loads in the video above are 181pf. The gun really tracks better the hotter they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 what power factor do you recommend for an ideal major load? right around 170 or over? That all depends on the gun, a shorty with three holes might shoot softest at 150pf, while a full sized gun with no holes might shoot softest at 175pf. By the time my shorty hits 170pf it's pretty nasty with 115s, 124s calm it down a little and I'd like to try 135s just for giggles. The powder charge makes the gas and I think at some point you're just making more gas than the comp can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardust tommy Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 nice to read... http://www.brazoscustom.com/magart/0607.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hello: Power factor will depend on what comp you have. If you want a flat shooting gun you may need a higher power factor to get more gas. The problem is if you go too high it will hit your hand harder. I prefer softer and flatter so I run my comp at 171-173PF to make the chrono wherever I go. Some powders when you get the gun to shoot flatter actually the dot tracks like a figure 8 making follow up shots slower for me. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaShot Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I had to go up to about 185-187 power factor before my open gun started to shoot flat. I have shot some really hot 38 super comp stuff in some other peoples guns and yes they shot like 22s. the problem is the brass costs .22 - .25 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb315 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I had to go up to about 185-187 power factor before my open gun started to shoot flat. I have shot some really hot 38 super comp stuff in some other peoples guns and yes they shot like 22s. the problem is the brass costs .22 - .25 each. It's actually more like 15 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin1911 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Here is my test on 9mm major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedirt Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 max shoots a bedell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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