toothandnail Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Anybody here try the http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1626899_ARFCOM_25_MOA_ALL_DAY_LONG_HANDGUN_CHALLENGE.html ? I tried it today, while I'm no sharpshooter by any means, I thought I would do better Here's my target 25 rounds at 25 yards, standing, 9mm , hand loads, Burris FFlll , looks like I need to adjust my dot slightly Edited November 23, 2014 by toothandnail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm surprised the smallest group seems to be around the 4" range - I would have guessed it would be quite a bit smaller - especially for the OPEN division. Thanks for sharing - might give it a try?? Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Give it a try, it's harder than most think it will be. Maybe that's why there aren't many takers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Can't print the target .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'll give it a go sometime next week hopefully. toothandnail, that's a good target! Why didn't they include your results over at AR15? Looks like the thread is still open (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 That's a pretty cool put your money where your mouth is, kind of challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Having trouble printing the target, get the top left quadrant only. Doc says page 1 of 1. Want the grid only, what am I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Is this the link your trying ? https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=b1c22b75774a66bb&id=B1C22B75774A66BB%21116&ithint=folder,.pdf&authkey=!AKnb6RddVQtQaTw It pops up 3 choices of targets to print. The pdf will print 7 pages of targets, the target stays the same size ( I think ) just the space around it gets bigger. 1 target on a single page 1 target on 2 pages, tape together 1 target on 4 pages, tape together ( for those REALLY bad shooters ) Seems the updates get pushed back until here are several to add, lets get a bunch sent in, I should be 2nd in open , 16th overall ( til you dead-eye's post up) see how good we really are Like I said earlier, it's harder that I figured it would be, guess it's the 25 shots at one target without some fliers I seemed to get my fliers when I slowed down ( kinda hard to see real good at 75 feet) I did it twice 1st, firing slowly = 28.72moa took about 90 seconds to shoot it 2nd 19.17moa shot it in 35- 40 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Having trouble printing the target. what am I doing wrong? Ditto. Also, I waited 2 minutes (120 seconds) and target had still NOT loaded?? HELP!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I got the PDF loaded, but, don't want to print all of it, just the first target ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) I don't have a problem getting it to print Try this Well 1st try didn't work looks like the pdf is too big ? ? ? I don't know how to edit the pdf to eliminate the extra pages Edited November 24, 2014 by toothandnail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Anybody here try the http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1626899_ARFCOM_25_MOA_ALL_DAY_LONG_HANDGUN_CHALLENGE.html ? I tried it today, while I'm no sharpshooter by any means, I thought I would do better Here's my target 25 rounds at 25 yards, standing, 9mm , hand loads, Burris FFlll , looks like I need to adjust my dot slightly Looks pretty good to me. Unless you're trying to shoot someone's ear off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodie Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This should help. Single is the one page. Double is the two side-by-side. Quad is the 4 piece one. Single_Arfcom 25 moa all day BFL.pdf Double_Arfcom 25 moa all day BFL.pdf Quad_Arfcom 25 moa all day BFL.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks, that worked perfectly. Now to get out to the range ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes, Thank You, worked perfectly for the single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Went to my favorite canyon near my home to try a couple targets. Shot my new Tanfoglio Witness Limited .45ACP. Pistol is stock except I added a UltraDot Matchdot II to help my old eyes. Here is my target stand at 25 yds measured with a 100' tape. Clean target: After 25 shots, 2 handed, no support. Target with pistol and handloads, 200SWC Bayou Bullet, 3.0g Bullseye, 1.250 OAL (without the 2 low shots the group is 3.700 CTC) With caliper showing 4.92" OTO, 4.468" CTC, 17.07 MOA Edited November 25, 2014 by NickD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I also shot my open .22lr target pistol. It is a Colt Gold Cup Trophy lower with a Nelson Custom .22 conversion. Pistol is all stock except I have tweaked the trigger to 2# 5oz. It also has an UltraDot MatchDot II. Same target stand at 25 yds. I shoot standing next to my truck bed so most of the brass goes in there, less to pick up. Clean target. After 25 shots, 2 handed, no support. Target with pistol and CCI-SV ammo. Target with calipers showing 3.600" OTO, 3.377" CTC, 12.90 MOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Nice shooting NickD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN550 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is my first post, but here is a target from 25 yards glock 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hi ! Try again on the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hi ! Try again on the target. He probably did the first time. Not enough posts to show the targets! Alan~^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nice shooting NickD Hey thanks t&n, you too! I joined over at AR15 and posted my targets. No response yet, think you're right that they wait for a few to post before updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I shot the drill yesterday with my carry gun and with my open blaster. I shot each drill one time. Of the 25 rounds through the open gun, 24 were really good but one round went into left field and kind of messed things up a bit. The group with my carry gun was pretty good and looked like what I would have expected 25 years ago from my old PPC revolvers and/or bullseye guns. Both groups were in the 3" ball park. I don't think I can enter the groups on the AR15 website because they need to be able to count all 25 holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why do they have a requirement of being able to "Count all 25 holes"? That seems kind of retarded when you are littering the target with 25 hits. If you and your gear are on there are going to be some very close hits on top of one another or the center of the target will get shot out completely. If they want to see all 25 holes it would make more sense if they had you shoot at 5 different targets with only 5 shots each all in the same session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) My mistake, I can submit targets with ragged holes, but some of the guys doing so took a bit of guff. I guess the point of the challenge is to see what folks can do consitently instead of best efforts. Seems odd that 5 groups of 5 shots with only one attempt wasn't the criteria. I guess one can shoot the drill over and over and then submit their best efforts. Last night I was looking over the old National Shooter's League stuff from the late 1970's. The NSL was started in my home town. The target we used out to 33 yards was about 3 inches high and 2 3/8 wide. That was an X ring, 10 ring, 9 ring, and everything else a miss. Some of the shooters were National Bullseye Champions, multiple Gold Medal holders from the Pan Am games, Olympic Gold Medalists, etc. I know the web is a breeding grounds for some really outlandish claims and plenty of BS, but there are some pretty good shooters lurking around. BTW, here is a pic of the group I shot with my open gun. The gun was built by Matt McClearn and I am comfortable saying it is the most accurate handgun I have ever owned. Edited December 11, 2014 by Ron Ankeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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