BOOM Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 P. E. kelly; Like to here information about the open gun. The Barrel, comp exct. Great Pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 P. E. kelly; Like to here information about the open gun. The Barrel, comp exct. Great Pic The gun was built several years ago by SJC. KKM barrel and the rest all SJC It is 9mm Major. It was on loan for article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 So a SJC gun; Thanks P.E. Kelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 How well does cerakote hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Here's my glock porn. G34 done by Hadley Owens. It's got a kkm barrel now but will be sporting a Firedragon soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Firedragon barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Firedragon barrel? Ci señor... http://www.efkfiredragon.com/ Way more accurate than my kkm's. Some take a little work to get to feed right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkvibe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 This thread turned out to be bad news for my wallet. Thanks again for the help 3djedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Firedragon barrel? Ci señor... http://www.efkfiredragon.com/ Way more accurate than my kkm's. Some take a little work to get to feed right. If this is confined to your guns with kkm barrels then that's a shame, but many , many very accurate pistols wear kkm's. and bar so and storm lake and....and... It really is about barrel fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFJ80 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 How well does cerakote hold up? Cerakote finishes are normally very tough & durable. However, like painting anything (house, car, etc) it all comes down to the prep work on the gun frame and parts. Anyone who knows what they're doing should be able to provide you with long lasting results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkvibe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) How well does cerakote hold up? Cerakote finishes are normally very tough & durable. However, like painting anything (house, car, etc) it all comes down to the prep work on the gun frame and parts. Anyone who knows what they're doing should be able to provide you with long lasting results. I'm not sure I agree with that. Although Cerakote is relatively durable and a really good spay and bake finish with a pretty hard result (mid 60's rockwell C i think), no matter how good your prep work is you are never going to be as durable as as other available finishes. Salt bath nitrocarburizing (tenifer) is about the same hardness as cerakote but wears longer. Pretty sure that's what glock factory slides use. DLC like the zev slide in the original post here has on it is probably more like Rc90. TiN is a lot like DLC, they are both PVD coatings. Edited October 15, 2014 by darkvibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Glock has not used tenifer for years, or at least that is my understanding. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkvibe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Glock has not used tenifer for years, or at least that is my understanding. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quite possibly. Tenifer uses some chemical that is terrible for the environment. Whatever they use i'm pretty confident it's still some sort of SBN coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think it's melonite finish like an m&p...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFJ80 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 How well does cerakote hold up? Cerakote finishes are normally very tough & durable. However, like painting anything (house, car, etc) it all comes down to the prep work on the gun frame and parts. Anyone who knows what they're doing should be able to provide you with long lasting results. I'm not sure I agree with that. Although Cerakote is relatively durable and a really good spay and bake finish with a pretty hard result (mid 60's rockwell C i think), no matter how good your prep work is you are never going to be as durable as as other available finishes. Salt bath nitrocarburizing (tenifer) is about the same hardness as cerakote but wears longer. Pretty sure that's what glock factory slides use. DLC like the zev slide in the original post here has on it is probably more like Rc90. TiN is a lot like DLC, they are both PVD coatings. True. Cerakote doesn't hold up as well as to other finishes out there like titanium nitride or tenifer finishes, along with some others, but it's still pretty durable. I have a Glock 19 slide with an AlTiN coating and that thing is rock solid, no matter how much I holster it or hit it against the table. It will not show any wear at all. At the same time, I have an aftermarket slide for my Glock 17 with a cerakote finish on it, and the color highly resembles the factory finish & color. I tend to be more careful with that one just because I like to, but it hasn't shown any holster wear on it yet. Granted, I probably holster the G19 about 4-5 times more often than the G17 so that may also make a considerable difference. Ironically, these days you can pretty much get a titanium nitride coating over your barrel or slide for just a few bucks more than a cerakote job. I paid $80 for the cerakoted slide, and $100 for the AlTiN carbon black coated slide. Kind of makes it a no-brainer as to which finish one should get. Only real consideration is the limited color & finish options available with titanium nitride coatings right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 How hard would it be to cerakote a grip yourself? I see cerakot kits available online. Air dry cerakot kits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkvibe Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 How hard would it be to cerakote a grip yourself? I see cerakot kits available online. Air dry cerakot kits..... I have never used an air dry coating before. It is applied the same as a baked on finish? I can share my experience with that type of application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siraig Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 In my little bit of experience with the air dry cerakote it needs the same prep. BUT that is not really possible on a poly frame. I plan to do mine and will be doing a very anal cleaning starting with dawn dish soap and ending with a few soaks and scrubs in IPA. I dont imagine it to be incredibly durable - but it should be cool! Guys are cerakoting frames with good success. Some are even baking them *YIKES* at a lower temp for a longer period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Here's my old 2 pin Glock 34. It had a Storm Lake barrel and duracoat finish. It was a good shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 2 pin with an accessory rail, and finger grooves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yep, early gen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I thought all the gen3 guns had 3 pins... You learn something new every day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Side by side pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 So were the 9mm the only ones to ever have the 2 pin models? Thanks for the pics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zjmccauley Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sweet glock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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