Bentsight Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Shooting TO and am looking for experience/ opinions about one vs the other. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 It depends on which way the swaro is mounted. If its' objective lens is pointed toward the stock, then its a tough choice. If not, then swaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 A friend just recently got the US Optics 1-8 and wrung it out pretty thoroughly. None of us was impressed by the reticle, and the lens showed noticeable distortion at the low end of magnification. Long range targets were easier to see and better defined through my Vortex Razor 1-6 at the high end. Can't recommend the USO in good conscience. You can get $600 scopes that will serve better. If you have the money, get the swaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Post #2 and post #3 both gave exactly the same answer. I think we are going to need a rap off to see who will be crowned king of this party, who will go first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Any reason not to look at the Schmidt & Bender 1-8 short dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 A friend just recently got the US Optics 1-8 and wrung it out pretty thoroughly. None of us was impressed by the reticle, and the lens showed noticeable distortion at the low end of magnification. Long range targets were easier to see and better defined through my Vortex Razor 1-6 at the high end. Can't recommend the USO in good conscience. You can get $600 scopes that will serve better. If you have the money, get the swaro. So which $600 scope will serve better than the USO 1-8? Which reticle in the USO did you guys use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billdozer Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Swaro, cause the glass is unfreaking believable, and the reticle lines up almost perfectly with my loads out to 600 with a 40 yard zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Any reason not to look at the Schmidt & Bender 1-8 short dot. Price.. little much for this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtsvi Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The Swaro BRT reticle is the easiest reticle I have ever used. I know where all of my holds are up to 600 yards, and the glass is incredible. I handled a USO and it was pretty heavy. The Z6i doesn't add much weight to my rifles. I love the Swaro so much that I have one for my other backup JP rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I did some price checking the S&B short dot is in the same price range as the other 2 maybe $100 or so differance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) A friend just recently got the US Optics 1-8 and wrung it out pretty thoroughly. None of us was impressed by the reticle, and the lens showed noticeable distortion at the low end of magnification. Long range targets were easier to see and better defined through my Vortex Razor 1-6 at the high end. Can't recommend the USO in good conscience. You can get $600 scopes that will serve better. If you have the money, get the swaro. So which $600 scope will serve better than the USO 1-8? Which reticle in the USO did you guys use? We tested the 8c Mil reticle. Now these are just opinions, but these (to me) would be better at a much lower price. 1. Vortex viper PST 1-4. Pluses- Glass was clearer, giving better definition on 3-500 yard steel plates. No noticeable distortion at lowest magnification. Minuses- Lower maximum magnification, exposed turrets are easier to bump $500 2. Leupold Mk4 Precision 1.5-5. Pluses- Noticeably better glass, covered turrets, MUCH lighter than USO. Minuses- Definitely 5x is less than most want for the longer targets $650 3. Burris Xtreme Tactical II. Pluses- Good glass, not quite as bright as USO, but no distortion Minuses- One heavy mother, exposed turrets, no true 1x $800 if you shop around Granted, we haven't discussed FFP vs SFP, or a host of other details that define exactly what you are looking for, but to me, paying that much for a scope with poor glass is a waste. Time for disclaimers though- 1.-I generally don't EVER buy a scope that I can't look through first unless the company has an excellent return policy. 2.- A sample of one tells you NOTHING, unless it is the actual one you are buying. Any good scope manufacturer can turn out a bad scope, and even a cheap scope turns out good once in a while. If you want to make a general statement about a scope company, you need to look through at least 5 of the same model and get an average. I have looked through a $200 Millet that had GREAT glass, and one of my customers just returned a Swaro hunting scope for the third time due to lens distortion and tracking issues. All scope manufacturers still sell scopes put together at "beer-thirty" on Friday from time to time. That said, the next USO I look through might be great. But EVERY Swaro AR scope I have looked through has been great. Edited October 8, 2014 by openclassterror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I did some price checking the S&B short dot is in the same price range as the other 2 maybe $100 or so differance. You must be quite the bargain hunter, they look to be about $1,100 more where I have seen them. Has anyone actually looked through one? If they are for sale, someone around here must have sprung for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Oops my bad I was looking at a S&B Zenith for $2400. But cstactical has a review on youtube with the short dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Openclassterror- are you sure there's such thing as a vortex pst 1-6x? If so sign me up, but I think you must be talking about the 1-4x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Sorry, my bad. That was what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtLocker Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Have you considered the SuperSniper 1-6x, available at SWFA? The FFP reticle is amazing and it is super clear. I bought it after reading a head-to-head shoutout report on snipers hide that included all the ones mentioned above and pegged the SuperSniper as the clear winner--including over the S&B Short Dot. Plus you can save a bunch; it only runs about $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Have you considered the SuperSniper 1-6x, available at SWFA? The FFP reticle is amazing and it is super clear. I bought it after reading a head-to-head shoutout report on snipers hide that included all the ones mentioned above and pegged the SuperSniper as the clear winner--including over the S&B Short Dot. Plus you can save a bunch; it only runs about $1000. Illumination is lacking on the Super Sniper. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 And It's real heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtLocker Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 It's lighter than the S&B, and I haven't found the illumination lacking at all. I think the illuminated FFP reticle is my favorite of all I have tried in this category. It is heavier than the Swaro, but so are most in this category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Its not day light visible unless you have over cast. That's ok if you are ok with that I am not at least not in an optic in that price range. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I just got this scope: http://www.alpenoptics.com/RScope-apex.html Alpens new 1-6X with BDC reticle. I've only just reviewed by looking through it and comparing to my Burris TAC30. So far so good. More to come as I mount it and see how it shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 How about Kahles 1-6 impressive scope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D__ Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 That SM2 rericle can be so good if they put a 3 or symbol or something to quick reference off of. Instead you have to count and thats slow. Especially if yiu are holding the rifle and need to count past five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45shooter Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Swaro. I have tried and used most other scopes in the market and if you have the money no other scope does it all like the swaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I like the build quality of USO, but I spent that money on another model because I do not like their reticle options. I do like the look of the red dot even though it is quite a bit higher. Swaro is nice, but they need to get to 1-8. I used to like the light weight of Z6, but after seeing 1-8x, I could justify the extra 10+ oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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