cgt Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have @ 500 cases ready to be deprimed. Some are 223 rem. And some are federal 556 55gr ball ammo. Do either or all need swaged or reamed before I can begin beloading? Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Hard to tell without looking, it's pretty easy to see if a case has been crimped. Problem is that some commercial cases are crimped, as well as all Mil cases. Doing all or just the crimped ones mostly depends on whether you are doing it on something like a 1050, or are doing it by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Running dillon rl550b. Cant post pics. Noob so far. One has a tri stamp the lc has a ring indention around it. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Also have cfe223 hodgdon powder.... should that be loaded the same as bl-c 2? Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 1) Stop, get a reloading manual. That second question is a bit scary. You need to understand powders and recommended charges 2) You will need to remove the crimp. You can do it with swagger or if you want to you can do it by hand with case neck reamer, the mostly work to the other end too, but slow an painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have lymans manual been loading for pistol for a while but now moving into the rifle. Much more tedious and more tools. Read on here someone called hodgdon and they stated its same as blc2 but with additives for reduced buildup. Its not a hot powder and is on the slower end of powders. I have my setup curreny at 25gr. Blc2 low end is 23.5 and hi is 26.5. Read of folks going to 27 but im not one for proving my point. It may shoot fast but only once........ just for plinking rounds... have stag arms 3g 18" 1 in 8 twist. Have 55gr. 68gr and 75gr to test w. And have to adjust for bullet too. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenr Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 This is a photo of some crimps before being removed. They can be any variation of a ring etc.also some have a red or green adhesive around the primer to help hold it in. Some use a drill bit/small counter sink in a drill driver to break the edge of the crimp. I have mine in a drill press when I am trimming and processing mine. It appears that I don't have any photo's of casings with the crimp removed. This is what you want to avoid, as it came in a bag of range pick ups I bought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenr Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Here are removed crimps with a drill bit and multi flute counter sink These are the 5.56mm/.223's military range pick ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 For me, the best solution to the crimp issue is to ream (or swage) every case the first time I reload it rather than use a magnifying glass (bad 63 year old eyes) to determine whether or not it has a crimp. Then I make absolutely sure that I pick up every damn case that I shoot and keep them separate from range pick-up since I know they don't have to be reamed again. I have a brass catcher to make sure that I don't miss any. I use an RCBS reamer attached to my FA Case Prep System so the process is much easier than doing it by hand but I still get sore fingers after a hundred or so cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you cant get primers in the cases then there is a crimp. Hornady makes a neat little cutter you can chuck into a drill that you can use to take the crimps out, it is easier for me to do them all as opposed to sorting and then cutting. if I see its a commercial case I toss it into the "crimp removed" bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Welp. 2nd round of resizing.. priming afyer trimming... didnt relube... 2nd bullet stuck die... drilling and making a bullet puller in a couple days. Fml Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddKS Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If you are going to reload 223 and do not have a 1050 then you should invest in the Dillon Super Swage. I used to use a reamer but the swage is much better. Crimped primers have become more common than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Welp. 2nd round of resizing.. priming afyer trimming... didnt relube... 2nd bullet stuck die... drilling and making a bullet puller in a couple days. Fml Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk If you just trimmed the case you should have already resized it. You don't need to relube as you won't be reusing the sizer die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoz Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) cgt, with all due respect, I think you'd be wise to step back from rifle reloading for a bit. Take the advice that vlad gave you. Read a couple of manuals and read them again. Visit some of the well known and reputable Internet sites and study everything you can before you dive in. The questions you asked about whether you need to ream or swage .223 and 5.56 cases and whether cfe223 can be loaded like BL-C2, as well as your recent post about having a stuck case after a second(?) resizing all indicate a basic lack of understanding. I also loaded pistol for a couple of years before starting .223, but I spent three months studying it before I even bought the additional equipment that I needed. I'm not being critical here, but this isn't anything to take lightly and it sounds like you may have jumped in before you were ready. For your own safety and of those around you, please try to become more knowledgeable. Edited September 26, 2014 by tcoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Morcillo Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) You'll also need a case gauge. Drop the resized case to check the resizing. If it fits flush, then you're within specs. Too short, and you'll have a case head separation, too long, chambering problems and high pressure. Develop a process for resizing brass. Polish, lube and resize(I use a lube pad and roll ten cases at a time). You'll need just a little lube to avoid a stuck case. Trim to correct overall length, then ream the primer pockets to remove crimp. The reaming also leaves a nice chamfer to guide primers. Polish again to remove lube so the case can grab the chamber wall when fired. Follow published data for safety and function. The more you do, them easier it gets. Go slow, mistakes are difficult and timely to correct. No radio, no TV, no distractions. Edited September 26, 2014 by Mike Morcillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Thanks everyone. Im going to study further. Bought the swage. Makes much easier on primer pockets. Fixed the stuck die issue. Slowing down a bit to ensure saftety. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpspinner Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 .. didnt relube... 2nd bullet stuck die... drilling and making a bullet puller in a couple days. Unlike pistol/straight wall cartridges, lubing cases are just as important. Also, since I'm mentioning it...there is such a thing as too much lube. Pick up an RCBS stuck case remover. It helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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