the duck of death Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 http://www.idpa.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 ? I don't see what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted January 15, 2005 Author Share Posted January 15, 2005 http://www.idpa.com/Rulebook_comments.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 This must have been as big an issue as many thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Too slow: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...=0entry234552 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Personally, I think he is being a little too condescending in his tone. He's the Big dog in IDPA, he should be used to rants and raves by his members. He set up the rules, obviously without much input from his membership, and has to live with the problems. A better response would have been, " i understand your concerns, we're working to get it fixed." They just had the IDPA Championships a few months back, I've heard no one who went there say they were asked for any feedback concerning rule changes. Was anyone approached??? We put on a large match here in New Mexico this past year, nothing said there. Our Area Coordinators have never called our club asking for input....... So, Bill, 'What Gives'??? RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Bear, Thank you, I agree with you 100%. His tone is entirely too condescending. I don't need to have things explained to me in the tone he chooses, especially if he is the one with a little explaining to do. Secondly, he needs to acknowledge that the current set of rules don't even conform to his own original rules (implementation time). Thirdly, step up to the plate and acknowledge that you knowingly changed rules that would cause your members to incur needless expense to simply stay compliant without concern for the outcome. Last but not least, apologize for naming two very high profile companies (Uncle Mike's and Robar) as producers of illegal services. (this is unheard of in competition rulemaking) Sorry for the short rant but these things are the items I think BW should have addressed in a more humble tone. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Umm, well, he does OWN the sport and can do whatever he wants with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Matt, Totally agreed. BW does own it. However as an owner of a business he should be a little more receptive when there are complaints of his product and service. For instance, I know another business owner that I purchased a product from that had a slight problem in its final function. HE could have chosen to simply say "I can do whatever I want, I own it". However HE actually informed his customers of the flaw and offered a replacement with no questions asked. Excellent service. Thanks. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangram Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 "Umm, well, he does OWN the sport and can do whatever he wants with it. " Yep and I don't have to participate, or I can start my own, or I can shoot another .... Consumer Rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 It's good to remember that USPSA is a Democracy and IDPA is a Dictatorship. Nothing against either organization but honestly...that's what they are. With that said...Good for you Bill Wilson. It's about time he stood up for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Thanks to the efforts of Bill, Joyce, and the countless others behind the scenes that have patiently listened to our comments, complaints, and consternations; I truly believe that the irregularities and imbalances of the SSR and ESR division(s) have been fixed to a satisfactory and very usable degree. True to my word, I will continue my “crusade” to raise the SSR and ESR divisions to record setting levels! Understandably, there will still be some mulling over of the fine points concerning equipment, etc. but all things considered we have a workable rulebook concerning these two divisions. TONS better than original and much better than the first draft of revisions. Thanks Bill and Joyce, etc. for your efforts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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