Paul-the new guy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I built an Open gun so I wouldn't have to count! Me too and then I signed up to shoot the pro-am... 10 rounds only per mag and my slide doesn't lock back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just ask one of your squadmates to count for you ....or get one of the groupies at the match to help out ... Or better yet, since you won't be shooting on the same day as me just hire me to do it .... An 8 lb keg of WST should just about cover my fee .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The real answer is get a sack full of ammo and start shooting drills. the more you do it the easier it gets.-----------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah0386 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Can you play the drums? I guess I don't really count, but refer to my feel and sound back in my drumming days. Kinda like drum rudiments based on how many shots. You really don't count drumming just go by feel and sound. Works for me and don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSStreett Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 We shot CM 06-03 (Can you count) at our local club match this past weekend. It amazed me how many shooters have trouble with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 That's becuase most shooters have not yet learned how to shoot subconsciously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 We shot CM 06-03 (Can you count) at our local club match this past weekend. It amazed me how many shooters have trouble with this. Counting is easier than keeping your trigger finger from going all derpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSStreett Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 We shot CM 06-03 (Can you count) at our local club match this past weekend. It amazed me how many shooters have trouble with this. Counting is easier than keeping your trigger finger from going all derpy. Yeah, sometimes your trigger finger has a mind of its own. AKA Trigger Freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Most paper targets require two hits. Count you Bill Drill in pairs pop-pop, pop-pop, pop-pop. Now you only count to three. Break it down to whatever terms your brain can process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 We shot CM 06-03 (Can you count) at our local club match this past weekend. It amazed me how many shooters have trouble with this. They have trouble because it is outside the norm and they don't realize it. Sure, sounds easy enough...shoot 5, reload, shoot 5...but how many times do you have an odd number of hits on a target? I bet there are people who can (and do) shoot 6 on each target faster than they can shoot 5 on each target. We train to put everything in pairs with USPSA paper targets, and so it becomes a habit to put 6 where it calls for 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Most paper targets require two hits. Count you Bill Drill in pairs pop-pop, pop-pop, pop-pop. Now you only count to three. Break it down to whatever terms your brain can process.Missing the point....you are still counting using your conscious mind...true you are now only counting to 3, but still counting. It should be pop pop pop pop pop pop. If you are pausing between shots to count them, even if it's every 2 shots, you are losing time. Let your consciouness of the situation go.Edit to fix typo....and to add...I am probably wrong! Edited August 19, 2014 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSStreett Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 We shot CM 06-03 (Can you count) at our local club match this past weekend. It amazed me how many shooters have trouble with this.They have trouble because it is outside the norm and they don't realize it. Sure, sounds easy enough...shoot 5, reload, shoot 5...but how many times do you have an odd number of hits on a target? I bet there are people who can (and do) shoot 6 on each target faster than they can shoot 5 on each target. We train to put everything in pairs with USPSA paper targets, and so it becomes a habit to put 6 where it calls for 5...I agree 100%. Most shooters practice Bill Drills, Blake Drills and 4 aces. We hardly ever shoot an odd number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSStreett Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 We ran CM 09-09 this past weekend. The 2ed string is 1-1-1 reload 1-1-1. Several people 2-1-1 and never realized they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Stearns Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I find the easiest method is to picture the drill, along with the shots, in your mind Then on the start signal don't consciously think about it. The subconscious will follow the blueprint you established. If it's 6 reload and 6, picture it in your mind then let your subconscious take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm31 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Good stuff...thanks. This is something I'm working on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 i can count fast. but not very high.. so i shoot production ... seriously. you should count the trigger pulls not the shots. if you ever shoot suppressed or full auto, or more fun full auto supprssed. you count the pulses of the trigger against your finger to see how many rounds you are dumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You can't count that fast, so don't. Pre-plan that you are going to shoot 6 and then just shoot 6. You are trying to function on a conscious level, STOP THAT! LOL Seriously don't try to count, visualize 6 shots, program your finger to pull the trigger 6 times and then just do that. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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