jabbermurph Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Im talking about increasing mechanical accuracy. Not how well of a shooter I may or may not be. the trigger doesn't increase or decrease the mechanical accuracy.....your thread title is conflicted, probably why you got the "practice" responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Yes, I see what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Im talking about increasing mechanical accuracy. Not how well of a shooter I may or may not be. Interesting concept. Not sure what your goal is, but accuracy would seem to be a combination of the gun capability and the shooter capability. What would be your guess as to the percentage of shooters who are good enough to even challenge the accuracy of the gun? My guess is maybe 0.1% or less. There is no path to replacing skill with mechanical revisions. In my experience the closest you can come to doing that is a high quality red dot sight. If you insist on short cutting learning to shoot, I would suggest a red dot not a barrel change. Ain't no free lunch out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpa5oh Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I have the Briley gunsmith fit barrel in my gen 3 G34 and can shoot fist size groups at 25 yards (just standing and shooting) when I do my job. I did the fitting myself - took 3 hours because I was so careful but I think it was worthwhile. I'm sure Bar Sto is as good if not better. (I didn't try the stock barrel - I shoot lead bullets, which was the first reason I got the barrel.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohland Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Using a standard Glock barrel, my Gen4 G34 produced improved accuracy by finding and installing a tight-fitting Locking Block (subject of another thread) and by developing a load that pushes a 147-grain Montana Gold CMJ bullet along at 883fps. This load reduced the group diameter about 1/3 at 20 yards from the previous velocity of 950fps. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stician Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) I would say finding a zero at 25y and a KKM barrel will help, it did for my G34 g4. Lockup got tighter. Can't tell you how many times I got a target perf by a hair that would have made a difference in points down if I have a stock barrel. I like the mentality of maxing the gear so I know the only variable is me. I've also read black nitriding a SS barrel helps. I have TiN coating on a KKM barrel in a Zev 24 and it's the most accurate Glock I have. Edited July 11, 2014 by Stician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 TO ME; Factory barrels are fine (test it off a bench using a sand bag), Unless your shoot lead Steel Guide rod Reduced power recoil spring Heavy mag-well Adjustable sights Make it fit you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I have noticed that as I practice the mechanical accuracy improves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Here's what I shot today off hand, gun is sighted in at 15 yds 4 rounds, 15 yds, G17 w slide mounted Burris FF lll 8moa dot, I left one previous shot unpainted to have a specific aiming point, visible in the second pic 20 yds, looks like I need to work on trigger pull , I am consistent though any suggestions for improvement on the longer range ? adjust the dot to be on at 20, 25 ? Edited July 12, 2014 by toothandnail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I would recommend you zero from a benchrest to take the "shooter" out of the equation as much as possible If you zero while shooting freestyle unsupported there are variables in your shooting that may be imperfect But your groups look great for the distances you were shooting, very tight! Zeroing at 25 yards with a 9mm will generally allow you to maintain the same point of aim from 0 - 50 yards, if shooting a red dot its probably the best option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 For some reason, I get better groups shooting freestyle unsupported over using a rest! Can't figure it out........ I've tried with just sandbags and also a caldwell plastic rest. I wish for a ransom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 For some reason, I get better groups shooting freestyle unsupported over using a rest! Can't figure it out........ I've tried with just sandbags and also a caldwell plastic rest. I wish for a ransom!Same here.I must be doing the same thing wrong.For some reason, I get better groups shooting freestyle unsupported over using a rest! Can't figure it out........ I've tried with just sandbags and also a caldwell plastic rest. I wish for a ransom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Im talking about increasing mechanical accuracy. Not how well of a shooter I may or may not be.Interesting concept. Not sure what your goal is, but accuracy would seem to be a combination of the gun capability and the shooter capability. What would be your guess as to the percentage of shooters who are good enough to even challenge the accuracy of the gun? My guess is maybe 0.1% or less. There is no path to replacing skill with mechanical revisions. In my experience the closest you can come to doing that is a high quality red dot sight. If you insist on short cutting learning to shoot, I would suggest a red dot not a barrel change. Ain't no free lunch out there. Try shooting an LC9 for 6 months with 25 yard accuracy free handed. The glock will shoot like a dream when you pick it up and blow thru 100 rounds. That's how my son done it. He's a stickler too. Harder on himself than anybody else. Happy shooting and good luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Im talking about increasing mechanical accuracy. Not how well of a shooter I may or may not be.Interesting concept. Not sure what your goal is, but accuracy would seem to be a combination of the gun capability and the shooter capability. What would be your guess as to the percentage of shooters who are good enough to even challenge the accuracy of the gun? My guess is maybe 0.1% or less. There is no path to replacing skill with mechanical revisions. In my experience the closest you can come to doing that is a high quality red dot sight.If you insist on short cutting learning to shoot, I would suggest a red dot not a barrel change. Ain't no free lunch out there. Try shooting an LC9 for 6 months with 25 yard accuracy free handed. The glock will shoot like a dream when you pick it up and blow thru 100 rounds. That's how my son done it. He's a stickler too. Harder on himself than anybody else.Happy shooting and good luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LC9? Is that like a revolver trigger in a tiny plastic gun? lol That would definitely improve trigger control! After that the glock would feel like a 1911! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You are so right. It's my sons pocket pistol. Very reliable and he shoots it well. Has a long stiff trigger pull ya have to get used to. Lots of ppl hate it for the long pull. Happy shooting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Changing my sights for a set of Heine Sights helped a lot. The improved sight picture helps old eyes. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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