nitrohuck Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Okay... Have been considering getting a dillon setup, probably the 550B, and there is one massive hangup I have that keeps boggling my mind... If Dillion products are arguably the most advanced reloading equipment out there, why the hell is the primer loading so archaic??? Picking up each primer one by one with a tube is absolute insanity to me if I am about to load 1,000 rounds, hell I'd rather stick with my Lee Loadmaster for that reason alone, all I have to do is dump 100 primers into the hopper at a time and I'm good to go... Am I missing something here? How do you expect to save time when you have to pick up 1,000 primers one at a time? Edited July 4, 2014 by nitrohuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If I felt like you,I would never buy a Dillon.You will never be satisfied . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Dillon the most advance reloading equipment?---nope---especially the 550B. Heck, you even have to advance it by hand. Absolutely reliable reloading equipment that will crank out a bajillion rounds without a hiccup---and if it does have a problem the manufacturer fixes it ASAP, no charge? That's Dillon. Buy a primer tube filler if it's that big a deal. I used to load tubes while watching the news until I got a RF-100 off of a prize table. Now I use it for small pistol, and still hand load the large primer tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Takes about 30 seconds per 100. If you're concerned about the time then do it while the cases are tumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steele Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) More money = more automation. Get an Rf100 Are you going to get a case feeder for the 550B? Edited July 4, 2014 by Scott Steele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganbillJ Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If the primer pickup is such a big deal breaker why are you going with the 550? Why not a 650 or 1050 with case and bullet feeders? Assuming you are wanting to remove as much work as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Get an RCBS and buy CCI primers that come in the APS strips.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Get an RCBS and buy CCI primers that come in the APS strips.... Too funny. The APS strips redefine the word suck. And for real fun try the RCBS tool that loads the strips. Seriously, loading the primer tubes is not time consuming and I have never felt the need to automate the task. Probably about a minute per tube so what's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levellinebrad Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think if you have mastered the quirks of the load master, you would be disappointed with the 550. I have often wondered if the blue kool-aid is really that much better and I'm sure I will give it a try one day but it will definitely be the 650 when I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodell Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I can load a tube with the vibra-prime in about 30 seconds total. 5 minutes and I'm ready to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Okay... Have been considering getting a dillon setup, probably the 550B, and there is one massive hangup I have that keeps boggling my mind... If Dillion products are arguably the most advanced reloading equipment out there, why the hell is the primer loading so archaic??? Picking up each primer one by one with a tube is absolute insanity to me if I am about to load 1,000 rounds, hell I'd rather stick with my Lee Loadmaster for that reason alone, all I have to do is dump 100 primers into the hopper at a time and I'm good to go... Am I missing something here? How do you expect to save time when you have to pick up 1,000 primers one at a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrohuck Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Thanks for the responses thus far guys, perhaps I am just making a mountain out of a mole hill, I think if you have mastered the quirks of the load master, you would be disappointed with the 550. I have often wondered if the blue kool-aid is really that much better and I'm sure I will give it a try one day but it will definitely be the 650 when I do This is what some one else told me the other day, before then I hadn't really considered the 650 but it might be the better choice for me afterall if I decide to go Dillon. Okay... Have been considering getting a dillon setup, probably the 550B, and there is one massive hangup I have that keeps boggling my mind... If Dillion products are arguably the most advanced reloading equipment out there, why the hell is the primer loading so archaic??? Picking up each primer one by one with a tube is absolute insanity to me if I am about to load 1,000 rounds, hell I'd rather stick with my Lee Loadmaster for that reason alone, all I have to do is dump 100 primers into the hopper at a time and I'm good to go... Am I missing something here? How do you expect to save time when you have to pick up 1,000 primers one at a time? Now THAT is what I'm talkin about Sarge, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I load 10 primer tubes with a Vibra Prime before I start loading. It takes less than 10 minutes to load the tubes and I am good for 1000 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If you ever have a hundred go off in that plastic feeder like I did back in the 80's with a Lee 1000 you will quickly understand why Dillon does it this way. I picked anvils out of my face and scalp for 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjacobs Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Buy more tubes, fill them before loading. I have 10 tubes I think for small primers. But really with the 550b after loading 100-200 rounds I am ready for a couple minute break and reloading some primer tubes is a decent little break. Now running the 1050, I generally have a buddy over when we are really cranking on ammo and one of us will run the machine and the other will fill primer tubes. I think the most we did in one day was 7k rounds. That was a long day and I think my arm almost fell off. Generally when I run the 1050 by myself its for 500-1000 rounds and loading 10 primer tubes takes about 10 minutes before I get cranking. Not that bad at all really. I will say it sounds worse than it is really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 +1 for this being a fake problem. Takes little to no time in the grand scheme of things and they work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I am lazy and prefer the Motorized version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Gonsalves Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I load 10 primer tubes with a Vibra Prime before I start loading. It takes less than 10 minutes to load the tubes and I am good for 1000 rounds +1 to this and the 650! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjacobs Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 +1 for this being a fake problem. Well the OP admittadely doesnt own a Dillon so I am guessing he has no actual experience using the pickup tubes. I have no problem with them. I would love a vibraprime, but from what I always read about them they are finicky. Loading on my 1050 its impossible to see the primer if its upside down or not before you seat it so for me, I dont want to take the chance so I continue to hunt and peck my primers the "old fashioned" way. I tried one of the cheap Frankford Arsenal units and it just didnt work well enough and caused some agravation that, again, I would rather continue to hunt and peck primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I consider the time between filling primer tubes the opportunity to double check my powder drop and bullet length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okorpheus Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 1 tube and you only have to stop every 200 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams30gts Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Get a 650 or 1050 and buy a bunch of tubes along with a bullet feeder. Then get a primer tube loader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 You SHOULD stick with the Lee..... In time you won't. You are looking for reasons not to change, so you already believe you need to change .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc361 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Forget the Vibra Prime. Sarge's video was of the PAL filler, which is much better but expensive, if you have to order it from Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacajun Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Okay... Have been considering getting a dillon setup, probably the 550B, and there is one massive hangup I have that keeps boggling my mind... If Dillion products are arguably the most advanced reloading equipment out there, why the hell is the primer loading so archaic??? Picking up each primer one by one with a tube is absolute insanity to me if I am about to load 1,000 rounds, hell I'd rather stick with my Lee Loadmaster for that reason alone, all I have to do is dump 100 primers into the hopper at a time and I'm good to go... Am I missing something here? How do you expect to save time when you have to pick up 1,000 primers one at a time? +1000 on the PAL filler....I've had one for almost 2 years now and I use it regularly. I've got 10 primer tubes so I load one and empty it into the 650 and then load all 10 of them....I'm good for 1100 rounds. These have been a little hard to get lately but I found a website for a store in Canada that says they have some in stock....sells for $175 Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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