dbletap_ed Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I have always loaded my 40’s using a carbide die w/o any lube. I have been nursing a bad case of tennis elbow which is finally feeling better. However, when I went to load on my 650 today my elbow hurt some. I sprayed a little silicon on the cases in the case feeder which made things go much better. My question is do I need to tumble the silicon off of the loaded rounds? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I don't think so. I've been using Hornady One Shot lube on my cases for years and just wipe the loaded rounds in a towel. This leaves probably 30-40% of the lube on the cases. After shooting a match, 150 rounds or so, I notice that quite a bit of the lube and sharpie marker ink has cooked off and coats the chamber, breachface, and the bottom of my scope on my open gun. Even though it does leave a mess, the residue has not caused any failures to function since mine and my wifes open gun have run 100% since we've gotten them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_aos Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I recently read in my Sierra loading manual that leaving case-lube on after reloading is a "bad idea". The theory is that the case temporarily expands when fired and is held by the chamber. When the gas pressure goes down, the case shrinks back down and is extracted. If the case is lubed, it won't "stick" for that fraction of a second and too much rearward force is applied to the breachface. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 A whole lot of us have put a gazillion or so rounds downrange with lube left on the cases without problem one. I never clean the lube off my 223. If a rifle's action is so pathetically flimsy that it can't take the forces generated, it needs to be turned into a wall hanger. The risk of detonating rounds during tumbling/cleaning, while small, certainly has to outweigh the hazards of firing rounds with a little lube on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I recently read in my Sierra loading manual that leaving case-lube on after reloading is a "bad idea".The theory is that the case temporarily expands when fired and is held by the chamber. When the gas pressure goes down, the case shrinks back down and is extracted. If the case is lubed, it won't "stick" for that fraction of a second and too much rearward force is applied to the breachface. Maybe on a blowback action it would be a problem. The 1911 and almost every other pistol 9mm on up have locking breeches. That's what holds the slide closed, not brass "gripping" the chamber. Nickel brass is plenty slippery, but there are no warnings for it. FWIW, old machinegun actions used to have oiler pads to oil the rounds being fed into the chamber for better extraction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_aos Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Maybe on a blowback action it would be a problem. Yes, that's what the article was geared toward. "Gas guns" and their special reloading requirements. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Leaving lube on, has been discussed a lot... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12298 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9759 One-Shot, no problem, Dillon lube... you decide, Silicon ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 In a class with TJ he advocated dumping rounds into a silicone rag just prioring to loading into a magazine at the stage he was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I'm not so sure about firing a bunch of lubed rifle rounds. Has anyone else ever heard of a particular lab or firearm company "proofing" their action with a normal factory load that was well oiled? I read that somewhere. Maybe it was a military firearm years ago, but I did read that tale somewhere. I do know that in my bolt actions a wet chamber will cause ejector marks on the case head similar to a hot load. All I know is I ain't shoot'n no 54,000cup round in my rifle with a lubed round or chamber unless it's an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Man, if the only thing that's between me and a thermo-new-cu-lar blast is the presence or absence of lubricant in my rifle's chamber, I'm getting the hell out of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Well, I probably read it in a gun rag, and you know better than to question a gun rag!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Well, I probably read it in a gun rag, and you know better than to question a gun rag!! Whoa! Sorry about that. I take it all back. Hope nobody revokes what little JuJu I have left for my blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JD45 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Also, when I finally get an AR and I don't feel like tumbling my lubed rounds, I will appreciate it if the kind members here will remind me that it is O.K. to leave the lube on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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