Trijicon World Shooting Championship - presented by the NRA

[raleck]

Yeah Jesse - there was for sure 35 + guns on the pro prize table.

[P.E. Kelley]

From the outside, it seems like the scoring and stage selections heavily favor 3-gunners/action shooters.

I'm guessing even a national champion hi power or bullseye shooter is unlikely to get more than 50% of Daniel or Pat on a 3-Gun/USPSA stage, where as a decent 3-gunner is probably going to get quite a bit more than 50% on the static rifle and pistol stages.

Would be interesting to hear thoughts from you guys that were actually there and if this was discussed with any of the guys coming from other disciplines?

That is what I gleaned from the Mil Teams. The match did favor 3 gunners but one would be hard pressed to set up a multi discipline event where 3 gunner would not fair very well.

With proper support from the industry (hard to get in the first year) this match could have nearly exact stages or courses of fire from each discipline.

Even then 3 gunner will rise to the top.

[Stlhead]

So Pat, it seems plainly obvious to me that a top 3 gun shooter would have a distinct advantage in a match like this. The more important question in my mind is was the match fun enough on it's own (without prizes or sponsorship duties) to warrant the time you invested to attend? Swag is cool, but some of us have day jobs that pay the bills, and we need to know if you had a good time.

[Jesse Tischauser]

From the outside, it seems like the scoring and stage selections heavily favor 3-gunners/action shooters.

I'm guessing even a national champion hi power or bullseye shooter is unlikely to get more than 50% of Daniel or Pat on a 3-Gun/USPSA stage, where as a decent 3-gunner is probably going to get quite a bit more than 50% on the static rifle and pistol stages.

Would be interesting to hear thoughts from you guys that were actually there and if this was discussed with any of the guys coming from other disciplines?

Only names I recognized were 3-gunners and The Sevigny's. Not trying to slight anyone. My apologies if I missed you.

[gose]

From the outside, it seems like the scoring and stage selections heavily favor 3-gunners/action shooters.

I'm guessing even a national champion hi power or bullseye shooter is unlikely to get more than 50% of Daniel or Pat on a 3-Gun/USPSA stage, where as a decent 3-gunner is probably going to get quite a bit more than 50% on the static rifle and pistol stages.

Would be interesting to hear thoughts from you guys that were actually there and if this was discussed with any of the guys coming from other disciplines?

That is what I gleaned from the Mil Teams. The match did favor 3 gunners but one would be hard pressed to set up a multi discipline event where 3 gunner would not fair very well.

With proper support from the industry (hard to get in the first year) this match could have nearly exact stages or courses of fire from each discipline.

Even then 3 gunner will rise to the top.

Agreed. You could start playing with the scoring system and the relative scores, but trying to level the playing field is pretty much always a certain fail.

The idea is cool, so would be unfortunate if it turns into a 3-gun "only" event.

Doing something like bumping up the stage prizes over the big overall orize might help ensure participation of single event specialists as well.

[Jesse Tischauser]

Yeah Jesse - there was for sure 35 + guns on the pro prize table.

Nice! I think the shooting sports as a whole should strive to do a better job of showing off the goods that the sponsors donate to match in support of all of us.

[P.E. Kelley]

So Pat, it seems plainly obvious to me that a top 3 gun shooter would have a distinct advantage in a match like this. The more important question in my mind is was the match fun enough on it's own (without prizes or sponsorship duties) to warrant the time you invested to attend? Swag is cool, but some of us have day jobs that pay the bills, and we need to know if you had a good time.

It was fun, I was on a great squad and that is a major factor. The match had us off balance as most of us didn't know what to expect and I liked that aspect.

As a first event they did an outstanding job of putting this on the ground! However if this match was promoted within the shooting sports collective

"as matches within a match", then the big dawgs from the other shooting sports might attend in greater numbers.

I was surprised that an honest to goodness Clays Pro did not show just to shoot and win the shotgun segment.

[JohnChambers]

Hi, I'm the guy who came all the way from England to shoot this match and was very glad he did!

I didn't expect to win anything, I was really just trying to treat it like a 'shooting vacation' and a chance to see the best competitive shooters in action.

I started out thinking the 3-gunners would probably be the most likely to do well in this, but they didn't have it all their own way.

My view of the match is here, condensed into 15 minutes:

I was in a great squad as well and I think I can confidently say we all had a fantastic time shooting this match.

Next year, I hope I can bring a team of us from the UK and we can take home a few more prizes!

Edited September 17, 2014 by JohnChambers

[AFH]

John, Thanks for a video that shows most (all?) the stages. It's nice to see how the stages were set up for those of us who couldn't be there.

Congratulations on winning the .22 Rimfire stage!!

Andy

[JohnChambers]

Winning that stage was a big surprise and a highlight of my year, for sure. The only stage not shown was the Stage 3: .45 Colt Bullseye match, as that was pulled for some reason.

[P.E. Kelley]

Winning that stage was a big surprise and a highlight of my year, for sure. The only stage not shown was the Stage 3: .45 Colt Bullseye match, as that was pulled for some reason.

Pulled because of too many gun malfunctions

[BPiatt]

The industry and competitors have had discussions on holding events just like this throughout the years but the issue always came up on how to balance the scoring. There have been similar events on a smaller scale across the country, all had the same problems. How do you recognize the difficulty of precision (bullseye, hi-power, etc) with a speed sport? I'm still scratching my head....

The staff at Peacemaker and Trijicon did a great job. Most importantly is that they are asking all the right questions so that they can improve the event.

and for the record, nobody wanted the bullseye stage to stay more than me.

Edited September 19, 2014 by BPiatt

[P.E. Kelley]

You, Daniel, Jerry were on my short list of who could win this thing...Tony Holmes quickly got on it as I watched him shoot, but the shotgun bit him.

I really enjoyed the event and want to shoot it again...TODAY! I did not fear the bullseye stage but glad is was not run under the conditions

found.