usmc90 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) setting up for a 200 grn. LSWC using W231 ..from the hogdon/winchester site load data it gives an OAL of 1.225" Having set up the first round that looks like it has alot of "set back" in the case..what do you all think...BTW im going to be around 5.1 grns sorry bought the crappy cell pics Edited March 5, 2014 by usmc90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc90 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Another thing, i've been loading 230grn LRN and wanted to know if you could leave the crimp die alone..the pics above it had not been through the crimoing die.. I'm using the carbon Dillon 3 die set-up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 My 200gr LSWC OAL is 1.249 and there is about a thumbnails worth (of the square shoulder) protruding from the case mouth and I have never had a problem with the gun cycling. These look like the original Hensley & Gibbs #68 and there are several variations out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midvalleyshooter Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 1.250 is a good starting point. Pull the barrel out of your pistol and use is as an ammo gauge. Start with the rounds a little long. When the round goes "Plunk" and the back end of the round is even with the edge of the barrel hood extension you are good to go. Here is a link to a discussion about this on the 1911 forum. You need to be registered to see the pictures. --> http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=256495 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredr Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 My load is 5.0 gr 231 for a 200 gr lswc but like stevera, I have about a thumbnail of bullet shoulder protruding in front of the case neck whereas yours look like the shoulder is flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer45 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Congratulations, especially if your shooting it through a 1911. VV-N310, TG, 231 or any fast powder with the bullet loaded long is a winner! I shoot laser cast 200 gr SWC, 4.5 VVN310, OAL 1.245, crimp of .68 and consistently shoot 1 inch groups out of several 1911s from a rest...around 840-850 fps....hard to shoot anything else. I shoot the identical load with plated SWC for indoor range with almost same accuracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc90 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Thanks everybody, The bullet manufacturer i'm using is from SnS casting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc90 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 rechecked using a plunking test and now have some loaded out to 1.246-1.249 ..they plunk and handle cycle through my 1911..tomorrow will be range test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSCaster2 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Thanks everybody, The bullet manufacturer i'm using is from SnS casting... I thought those looked nice! Looks like you're on the right track with your new OAL and the 200 SWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSlim Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Glad you got it worked out. Your 1st images definitely looked like the bullets were seated too deeply. Loaded at near 2.25 OAL and around 5 gr of 231 makes an accurate and pleasant to shoot round in my 1911s. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The OP's pictures show a SWC that is seated too deeply. There should be at least 1/32" of the shoulder above the case mouth. With lead bullets, you can seat such that the case head is flush with the barrel ramp (i.e., just shoulder just touching the lede/rifling and the case head just touching the breech face for minimum head space) for best accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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