danjordan78 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Just looked through all the topics in the thread and didn't see a complete thread on this. What is your time difference between the two to first shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It takes me .3 seconds longer to turn, then draw. This is based on my dry fire, for both drills, with hands above shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My turn & draw needs work. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56hawk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm about .1 second slower on the turn. Probably depends on how much you practice up range starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjordan78 Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks! From what I have seen its usually between .1-.3 sec slower. Who else? Would like to get a good baseline for some research I am doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTraab Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Right at about .1 slower on the turn for me right now. I preload most of my weight on my right (strong) foot before the buzzer. When it goes off, I kick my left around in front of me while pivoting on the right and snapping my head to the target. The head snap is very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Are you pivoting on your toes of your strong foot? Or stepping over and only turning your strong foor 1/4 turn or the full 180 turn. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTraab Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pivoting on toes of strong foot while weak leg swings around in front of me. I do the full 180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56hawk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 When it goes off, I kick my left around in front of me while pivoting on the right and snapping my head to the target. The head snap is very important. Doesn't this put your left leg outside the shooting box? Assuming you are doing a toes touching rear fault line start. I do a 90 degree pivot on my left leg, moving my right hip toward the target and then a 90 degree pivot on my right leg bringing my shoulders square to the target. Usually fire the first shot before the left foot touches the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I shoot right hand. Pushing off with my left toes, as my head snaps (right) to the target, I pivot to the right, on my right heel. My right foot never leaves the ground. It does not matter if your foot swings over the box / fault line, as long as it does not touch the ground, outside of the box, while your are shooting. Edited February 6, 2014 by Reshoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTraab Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 When it goes off, I kick my left around in front of me while pivoting on the right and snapping my head to the target. The head snap is very important. Doesn't this put your left leg outside the shooting box? Assuming you are doing a toes touching rear fault line start. I do a 90 degree pivot on my left leg, moving my right hip toward the target and then a 90 degree pivot on my right leg bringing my shoulders square to the target. Usually fire the first shot before the left foot touches the ground. No, my left foot ends up in the shooting box. With the toes touching the rear fault line start, I touch the line with the toe of my cleats instead of standing on the line like I see lots of shooters do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) When it goes off, I kick my left around in front of me while pivoting on the right and snapping my head to the target. The head snap is very important. Doesn't this put your left leg outside the shooting box? Assuming you are doing a toes touching rear fault line start. I do a 90 degree pivot on my left leg, moving my right hip toward the target and then a 90 degree pivot on my right leg bringing my shoulders square to the target. Usually fire the first shot before the left foot touches the ground. try and pivot on your week side heel that. brings me in the box. Edited February 7, 2014 by juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idHawk Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I need some work! Timed myself to determine the difference during dryfire practice last night and I was at least a full .5 slower on the turn. .4 was the fastest I could muster out of 20 or so tries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I need some work! Timed myself to determine the difference during dryfire practice last night and I was at least a full .5 slower on the turn. .4 was the fastest I could muster out of 20 or so tries. What are your draw times to begin with. facing down range it should be around a 1.0 or so in production at 10 yards. The biggest thing is getting your head turned and eyes on target. The body will follow the eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawboy Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 .2 slower on turn and draw in dry fire at 6 yards. Snap head around, pivoting toe of left foot and heel of right foot, then let left leg swing around the rest of the way as I draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigboy40 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I preload my right foot and pivot indoors. Outdoors I do I smooth looking 3 pt spin to bring my legs around. During it my legs are moving, my gun is coming out, and my head is acquiring the target. I can't imagine trying to pivot in cleats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian38 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 .1-.3 ...why is it almost as fast ? I saw this in a match last week my turn and draw time was 1.28 vs .8-1 sec for normal. I guess neither is very important in the big picture ,but it still makes me think I'm wasting time in my normal draw. With all the added movement in a turn and draw I expected more of a diffrence. Although they are crying about gunfighter stances locally ,so I have to turn/ reposition a bit on most match draws. So you will let me run around with a loaded gun shooting stuff ,but it's too scary to let me start facing a target. I don't recall having a big diffrence in accuracy between turn and draw ,and normal. Maybe .3 is a lot of time guess it's all relitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax3D Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Swinging your legs around???I step backward with my strong-side leg and pivot on the balls of BOTH feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrooney Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I was shooting a match a few years back and they had the el prez for the classifier. I was practicing my turn around before I shot and Ron Avery came over to me and said just turn around like you are going to get something out of your truck. Very good advice. Why make it complicated. Your just turning around. Keep it simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 .2 difference for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zy112 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Usually I'm .2 slower. I use a real narrow stance, pivot my right foot and step around with the left (if that makes sense). For me it's all go to be determined whether I hook up on the grip or not. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeDefy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I worked on draws today and averaged in the 1.3s with a couple in the 1.2s. Shot one El Prez at the end of the day and got a 1.64 first shot. I do a 'right face' of you are familiar with military drill, then I step over with my left foot. I don't look very snappy in my video, I think the .3 second difference should be much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOBGT Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 .3 difference about normal, I am shooting limited. But I use a production type holster. 1.3 on a hands above shoulders turn draw, 1.0 on a "standard" hands relaxed downrange draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc10mm Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I'm at 0.3 sec differential also but I'm closer to 1.7 sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoflungdo Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 .2-.4 average difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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