EricS Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'm looking to upgrade at a reasonable price from my Bushmaster 16" carbine that I basically rednecked into a 3 Gun rifle. It works and shoots fine but I find myself wanting to improve some stuff and the costs of parts is making me rethink it. At the LGS today I saw a new DPMS 3G2 at just a hair over a grand. I like it a lot, 16 inch barrel notwithstanding. Any of you folks have any experience with it or have an opinion? The price is right, the gun is sitting on the shelf ready to go and I have the funds to purchase. I think I'd prefer the 18 inch barrel but I don't know so I'm exploring all avenues. My thought on the barrel is the 16 inch 3G2 would make a very handy little HD gun as well. I'm a brand new competitor having only shot two 3 Gun matches so far. But I'm enthusiastic and motivated to improve. I run a Vortex Viper PST as my dedicated optic (which I love). Any advice is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Just cause it says 3G doesn't mean it's any good for 3 gun. That thing doesn't have a match trigger, rifle gas system or 15" hand guard. But it does have a set of cheap flip up sights at 45 degrees. You could do as well in 3 gun with their sportical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Thanks Jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I'm looking to upgrade at a reasonable price from my Bushmaster 16" carbine that I basically rednecked into a 3 Gun rifle. It works and shoots fine but I find myself wanting to improve some stuff and the costs of parts is making me rethink it. At the LGS today I saw a new DPMS 3G2 at just a hair over a grand. I like it a lot, 16 inch barrel notwithstanding. Any of you folks have any experience with it or have an opinion? The price is right, the gun is sitting on the shelf ready to go and I have the funds to purchase. I think I'd prefer the 18 inch barrel but I don't know so I'm exploring all avenues. My thought on the barrel is the 16 inch 3G2 would make a very handy little HD gun as well. I'm a brand new competitor having only shot two 3 Gun matches so far. But I'm enthusiastic and motivated to improve. I run a Vortex Viper PST as my dedicated optic (which I love). Any advice is greatly appreciated. Have you thought about upgrading your current carbine with the parts you want. (18 inch barrel rifle gas etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have and at some point probably will.The problem is it's a very old and well worn Bushmaster. Drop in stock handguard, untreated BCG (that I have had some issues with), etc. I think the only salvageable parts will be the upper and lower receivers. The amount of money I'll end up plunking down on it will be considerable, enough for me to at least consider buying an off the shelf rifle if I can find an acceptable one in my price range. I think I'll probably keep shooting my carbine until I get enough experience and knowledge to be certain of how I want to upgrade. Thanks for the input and food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr50mag Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Having handled both the 3G1 was more of a competition rifle than the 3G2 will ever be. I don't understand their logic. There are better choices available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bacus Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 When comparing what you get for what you pay it is very hard to beat the Stag S3G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What exactly is wrong with the DPMS rifle? In comparison with the Stag? I own several Stag rifles, and no DPMS. Having said that, the DPMS rifles I have seen seem like nice enough rifles. What specifically is missing from the DPMS rifle in comparison? Just really curious. I am currently selling one rifle I have to fund an upper. Looking and researching the pros and cons of various platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What exactly is wrong with the DPMS rifle? In comparison with the Stag? I own several Stag rifles, and no DPMS. Having said that, the DPMS rifles I have seen seem like nice enough rifles. What specifically is missing from the DPMS rifle in comparison? Just really curious. I am currently selling one rifle I have to fund an upper. Looking and researching the pros and cons of various platforms. Read Jesse's post #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 DPMS in General is good. I own a couple and have had no issues. I've also used their parts before my Stag days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iswope Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 When comparing what you get for what you pay it is very hard to beat the Stag S3G. This in a nutshell. The best bang for the buck today is the S3G. There's very little upgrade needed off the shelf and it's a really solid platform to build off of when you get the itch to try out different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I agree with Jesse, 3 gun is hot right now and the big companies are up on the marketing hype. Not blaming the big companies at all, it is smart selling tactics. Not saying that all of the rifles advertised as 3 gun rifles are not any good. Many are great starting guns. A lot depends on how serious you want get with the competition. Just to make a point, telling on my age for sure. I remember when Robbie L. done a demonstration shooting a El Pres with a stock 1911 and timed it compared to a full house custom 1911. Times were not that much different, big difference at the GM level, but not at the average shooter skill level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachvu Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I saw just the title of this post and knew it was you! What did you end up going with?? Or do I have to wait until tomorrow to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmilberg Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Not sure if you've decided already, but Rock River has a new 3G AR (X-series) out and it looks nasty! Cryo 18" 1 in 8" stainles and fluted in .223 wylde, 15" free float, and their 2-stage trigger. Not a bad deal for $1400 imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 I bought the 3G2 Zach and here's my thought process on the purchase. I sold an A2 rifle to my brother in law a couple of weeks ago so I needed a new carbine just as a home defense and general rifle if nothing else. I decided to go with the 3G2 and give it a try to see what it'd do. Brian N. liked it and recommended I buy it at the price I was quoted. If it isn't what I need it'll still fill a role on the self defense gun side. I really think it will shine there and at just over 1K it's at least in line with a lot of the other offerings out there. I'll shoot it in 3 Gun for a bit and we'll see. Absent really long stages I think it will do reasonably well. I really think I'll end up with a Stag though Linda wants me to have JP build me a gun (and who am I to argue with my wife who wants to buy me an expensive gun?). I actually ran it in the UPOA match today and it did very well, even with what turned out to be a faulty zero. It was great to see you today. Hope you're coming out to Brian's class tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 There you go. You can shoot 3 gun with any rifle. So don't let what's in the safe stop you from attending a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks Jesse. Like I said I think I'm going to end up with the Stag or something comparable but the DPMS will fill a roll for me even if it ends up sucking at 3Gun. At my very limited level of experience I could have stayed with the Bushmaster carbine (or really about anything) and done fine. This way I get a replacement gun I can do some testing with and still have a rifle I can use somewhere. It has decent features and good build quality. The trigger is completely adequate for a beginner like me and very good for a self defense rifle. It's basically a good quality carbine I can also use for matches. And I ditched the MBUIS sights. You're right, they're pretty much plastic crapola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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