Sarge Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The dropped gun rule makes no mention of the fact that you can't remove your belt with gun which per ruling is indeed a dropped gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That's handled in 5.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 5.2.1 I believe handled that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Sure it does but it still should be mentioned in the 10 section of the rules. Where is the first place an RO looks for a rule when a DQ is earned? 10 or 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22 shooter Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Facing Uprange ................Face and feet pointing directly (90°) away from the backstop with shoulders parallel to the backstop. Shouldn't that be 180°? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Facing Uprange ................Face and feet pointing directly (90°) away from the backstop with shoulders parallel to the backstop. Shouldn't that be 180°? Nope. Its a test of flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 oops.... something else to fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer1911 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Got an email from Val. No date on printing yet. They will get mailed to ROs and above and Clubs as soon as available (No print date yet). Goes into affect Feb. 1st so recommend printing and reviewing the changes. There is also a Supplement with what has changed and explainations of the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 oops.... something else to fix? It is a tough definition to fix. Up to a couple of days ago it was facing the backstop so it is getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Seems to me the NROI should have posted the new rules for USPSA members to comment on. The majority of the discussion in this thread could have been discussed by the NROI, before the 'final' rules were posted. Or, did I miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Actually I'm pretty sure they were posted for commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Seems to me the NROI should have posted the new rules for USPSA members to comment on. The majority of the discussion in this thread could have been discussed by the NROI, before the 'final' rules were posted. Or, did I miss that? you missed it buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hey, I thought the level I exemption was going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 It did, for long courses. 1.1.5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It did, for long courses. 1.1.5.1 I thought it was going away, away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer1911 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 If it goes away away, then lots of clubs will be left without the ability to run Many stages. Resources and/or the ability to store them is limited. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It did, for long courses. 1.1.5.1I thought it was going away, away. That's one of the rules the BOD changed after hearing member input on the proposed rule. Members didn't like the change so we left it the way it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 It did, for long courses. 1.1.5.1I thought it was going away, away. That's one of the rules the BOD changed after hearing member input on the proposed rule. Members didn't like the change so we left it the way it was before. good to know thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galt11 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Sorry, found it. Adam Edited February 2, 2014 by galt11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Were any Tiger Teams involved with this book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Anyone know if there's a version of the rulebook with the old rules and the changes for the new one? To explain: I used to be an aircrew guy, and we'd be issued a set of Technical Orders for our aircraft. When things changed, we were given notices with pen-and-ink changes or changed pages, so you could track what used to be the case and what the current guidance is. Something like that would be helpful, just to see where the departures between the two rulebooks are. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 List of changes is here: http://www.uspsa.org/document_library/rules/2014/2014%20Rules%20Changes.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 To explain: I used to be an aircrew guy, and we'd be issued a set of Technical Orders for our aircraft. When things changed, we were given notices with pen-and-ink changes or changed pages, so you could track what used to be the case and what the current guidance is. Something like that would be helpful, just to see where the departures between the two rulebooks are. Yup, change pages. I remember those well. I didn't do it a part of an aircrew but I know exactly what you're talking about. The manual could be changed XX percent before a revision was required to be published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 <remember mode> Same thing with IBM manuals. Updates were called "Technical Newsletters". The coversheet was summary of which pages to replace or insert. You did what it said and filed it in the back as a record of the update having been applied. This came up as an idea for USPSA a few years back amongst a few of us where the rulebook would be in a small-form ring binder. It never went anywhere.</remember mode> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks, Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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