tiger49931 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 With the increase in weight do you think they will allow weighted base pads and tungsten guide rods in ssp as long as you make weight? i was looking at getting some aluminum base plates and a new guide rod but dont want to spend the money if it will make my gun illegal for ssp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'd guess they will allow what the rulebook says. 8.1.7. Non-IDPA-Legal Modifications for All Divisions 8.1.7.2. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage. This includes (but is not limited to) weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods, brass magazine wells, weighted grips, and weighted grip plugs. SSP permitted: 8.2.1.3.18. Aftermarket magazine base pads may be used provided they do not make the magazine weight more than 1.00 oz/28.3 grams over the same capacity factory magazine.8.2.1.3.19. Magazine base pads may be modified by reshaping, texturing, or adding bumper pads provided that they do not make the magazine weigh more than 1.00 oz/28.3 grams over the same capacity factory magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrickysee Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looks like the CZ SP01 Shadow is going to be popular in SSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger49931 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 yes it does.. never shot one how are they ? heard they are awesome but never got my hands on one or know anyone who has one .. in my area Glock reigns then M&P then sigs etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger49931 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 most of them i have seen have full dust covers not allowed... im sure they make a short version.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looks like the CZ SP01 Shadow is going to be popular in SSP Even under the old rules, the shadow could make weight. Needed lightweight grips, but it could be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger49931 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 the only thing that kinda scares me about the shadow is this http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=188153 You see the list of parts he has with it ? do they break that often? i mean shit man thats alot of things needed to keep it running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrickysee Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Nah they are pretty solid. I thinks this guy was doing some DIY gunsmithing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger49931 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 how are they for accuraccy. i am really interested in one but dont wanna drop the wad if they gonna be a 5" @ 25yrds kinda thing . i heard they are really accurate but thats just scuttlebutt . cause i dont know anyone who ones one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 most of them i have seen have full dust covers not allowed... im sure they make a short version.. I don't believe the full length dust cover is illegal in SSP. Only ESP and CDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 With the increase in weight do you think they will allow weighted base pads and tungsten guide rods in ssp as long as you make weight? i was looking at getting some aluminum base plates and a new guide rod but dont want to spend the money if it will make my gun illegal for ssp.. You can use a steel guide rod, but not tungsten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 i have shot both the 75b and the sp01, shadow and non shadow version. they are very accurate guns and i like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) I don't believe the full length dust cover is illegal in SSP. Only ESP and CDP. It works the other way around. Steel FLDC's are ONLY legal in SSP, but if you have an SSP legal gun, you can play in ESP or CDP depending on caliber. This is how you can get a steel FLDC'd gun into ESP, through SSP. But that means you can't add a mag well, etc. The gun has to be SSP legal. Edited January 13, 2014 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterpuc Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I don't believe the full length dust cover is illegal in SSP. Only ESP and CDP. It works the other way around. Steel FLDC's are ONLY legal in SSP, but if you have an SSP legal gun, you can play in ESP or CDP depending on caliber. This is how you can get a steel FLDC'd gun into ESP, through SSP. But that means you can't add a mag well, etc. The gun has to be SSP legal. Correct, if it breaks an ESP/CDP rule, it can only be legal in those divisions if it is SSP legal. Prime example is a CZ SP01 and maybe the CZ 97... But it has to stay SSP legal, so no external modifications, magwell, target trigger, etc ... Isn't that correct Koski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911aow Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have 2 CZ75's and many of my friends have Shadow's. The older 75's(pre-90's) were not always as accurate due to barrel internal dimension differences, but boy oh boy, these new Shadows can shoot! Very few people will be able to even get close to the accuracy potential of the normal Shadows. One of our local PPC High Masters imported a specialy tuned and fitted Sig X5 Competition specifically to shoot PPC with. He paid an astronomical price for this custom shop Sig and shot a couple of Personal Best scores with it. He then bought a Shadow for IPSC and for a laugh shot it at a PPC event and matched his best ever score with the custom Sig 1st time out! The Accu-Shadows are reputed to be even more accurate, but I doubt that most shooters will be able to out shoot the standard Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Butter - Yep. That is the way it reads to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19852 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My pre-B 75 has been very reliable from day one with zero broken parts. I have a lot of rounds through it, maybe as many as 15,000. I do keep spare springs and a 2nd slide stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcArthur Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I have seen 3 to 4" groups at 50yd and 2" or less at 25yd with a Standard Shadow. They are great. After about 10,000 rounds parts are known to break. Only parts that I have really seen break trigger spring and slide stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexKramer Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 how are they for accuraccy. i am really interested in one but dont wanna drop the wad if they gonna be a 5" @ 25yrds kinda thing . i heard they are really accurate but thats just scuttlebutt . cause i dont know anyone who ones one.. This was the target included in my CZ75 Shadow T from CZC: The pistol: It's not a stock 75 Shadow, it's the one worked over by CZCustoms and also has the short reset trigger in it. I put in a lighter mainspring to get the DA pull (and to a lesser degree the SA pull) down a bit. It's around 6.25lbs DA and a tad under 3 SA if I remember correctly. It's a sweet shooting pistol. I went with the 75 instead of the SP01 because of the old rule book weights. It was easier to just get this one rather than fiddle with the SP01. The SP01 should fit under the new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 The match before last, my son beat me by .7% with a box stock CZ75B against me with an 85B with some "tweaks". His shadow came, from CZC, before the most recent match and he beat me by 7%. Both off us are new to the sport and I am old and slow. But I blame the gun for his dominance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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