blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 My bullet stash is dwindling and it's almost time for me to order another batch. I've been shooting precision delta fmjs and have been happy with the performance. It looks like there's pretty substial savings to be had by going to coated lead bullets. I'm just wondering about the mess. Before PD, I shot cast bullets from Missouri Bullet Co. I liked the price and the way they shot but I hated the nasty mess that they left inside my pistols... Will these coated bullets be messy? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The crap coated bullets leaves behind has a lot to do with the powder one is using. Much less than straight lead bullets but not quite as clean as fmj. For a smokescreen try Titegroup and moly haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Certainly dirtier than jacketed but like said above a lot of it has to do with powder. All guns get dirty if you shoot them enough. Scrubbing the moly out of a barrel can be a chore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 From what I understand, the ones I'm looking at are some sort of "polymer blend" and not moly if that makes a difference at all. I just can't decide of the savings is worth it. $150 savings per 2500 bullets is pretty big with my budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) What brand are they? I am going to load up some Production rounds to have on hand to play with occasionally and am thinking of trying the new SNS offerings. But I had good results with Precision Moly out of Texas. They are cheap too. Edited November 19, 2013 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Those SNS ones are the ones I'm looking at. With that current promo code the prices are really attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick88 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'm going to try the SNS coated bullets at 175pf in my open gun, if they do well I will promote them and send some money their way, they do support the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I've read nothing but good things about Bayou Bullets. I just ordered a case of them in 230g LRN for my S&W 625 revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trp Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sns is great boyous are great very clean in the gun and during loading there all I use you won't be disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddrod Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The coated bullets from Bayou, SNS and Gateway all are the same coating and leave my guns just as if I were using FMJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddrod Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The open shooters in NZ have no problem using bullets with the HITek (aka Bayou, SNS) coating on them in their open guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowhand23 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 How about the Xtreme plated bullets? Current 15% off code makes them cheaper than coated. Anyone compare performance? I have shot many Bayou & some bbi but very few plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Shooting Bayou Bullets 200 gr. SWC bullets in my G21, @ a PF of 170, after 1,000 rds they are just as clean as when I use MG FMJ. IMHO, these are the best bullets available, especially when you consider the price of .10¢ each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 From what I understand, the ones I'm looking at are some sort of "polymer blend" and not moly if that makes a difference at all. It does, a lead slug coated with just powderd "moly" will leave a hell of a mess behind. The coated bullets that I have used are not moly coated and the MSDS I have for one of the coatings shows that contains less than 2% molybdenum. So when folks say "moly" bullet more often than not they mean coated. Kink of like the guys that call magazines, clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cslafrain Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Black Bullets International uses the same coating material as Bayou & SNS now. The coating is made by J&M Speciality Products from Australia. It is a catalyzed polymer with lubricant that is baked onto the bullet. Our internal testing has yielded some good results but then again I am probably biased. The manufacturers above are all good people making quality products for the shooting industry and you can't go wrong choosing any of them.<br /><br />Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk<br /><br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Thanks for the help guys! I've put in an order for a few thousand from SNS in different calibers. I'm gonna give em a chance and hopefully save some $ in the process! I'll post updates as I send em down range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm300 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The only thing that is not 100% positive about the bayou's I have been running is the smell. They are accurate, clean, and inexpensive. They just smell like burnt electrical wire when you shoot them. That won't stop me from using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 How about the Xtreme plated bullets? Current 15% off code makes them cheaper than coated. What is this discount code you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 You will be happy with your purchase. I have been using Bayou bullets in 40 and 9 for a while now and they load and shoot great, cleaning doesn't seem to be any more of a chore than with plated or JHP/CMJ. The one thing that was said is powder is important. Loading real hot powders like titegroup may cause problems with melting the coating. I use the cooler fast powders, WST specifically, it is intended for shotgun use, so it is designed not to burn/melt the plastic wad. I think the same idea apply for other shotgun gone pistol powders, solo 1000, ramshot competition...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Would WSF fall in that group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I use Black Bullet Internationals. Instock, ready to go, accurate, and reliable. My CZs and custom 1911s don't have any issues what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Would WSF fall in that group? I believe so. It is listed on winchester's primarily as a shotgun powder. I do not have any first hand experience with it, but a buddy of mine loads with it and uses bayou's and he seems very happy with the combination. Does your slide feel scolding hot after a high round count stage? Tight group used to burn me when showing clear, now with WST I don't notice any real heat at all. Update: After some brief searching on the web, people do seem to be saying is burns a lot cooler than TG or even W231, so I would say you should be good to go. Edited November 19, 2013 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowhand23 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 How about the Xtreme plated bullets? Current 15% off code makes them cheaper than coated. What is this discount code you speak of? 15offbullet http://www.xtremebullets.com/category-s/48075.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blopez50 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Thanks for the info! I'm actually not loading WSF yet. Currently I'm using WST with FMJs (in 9mm production) and have been really pleased. I asked about WSF because I'm in the process of stepping up to limited 40 in a g35 and have read that WSF might be a little safer powder choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Would WSF fall in that group? I believe so. It is listed on winchester's primarily as a shotgun powder. I do not have any first hand experience with it, but a buddy of mine loads with it and uses bayou's and he seems very happy with the combination. Does your slide feel scolding hot after a high round count stage? Tight group used to burn me when showing clear, now with WST I don't notice any real heat at all. Update: After some brief searching on the web, people do seem to be saying is burns a lot cooler than TG or even W231, so I would say you should be good to go. Come on guys! There is a lot more to choosing a powder than how cool it burns. That is not a part of load development that I am aware of. Yes, TG is a smoker but it is also a recognized safe powder that has been tried and proven. WST is used by some with success but it is definitely not a "first choice" powder for 9mm, especially with lighter bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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