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40 Lead 175 Gr TCBB


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Guys,

I am starting to load a 175 gr Lead TCBB bullet. I have been reloading for several years now using mostly Winchester Super Field for my 45 loads. I am having a hard time finding load data for this particular bullet. I did see on here where some people are using 6.0 grains of WSF. That seems way too hot. I maybe wrong, but it just seems that is on the high end. I use 6.2 grains right now for my 200 gr LSWC in 45 and I am around 850 fps.

I need a major load for USPSA limited and also a minor load for production in USPSA and ESP/SSP for IDPA. Does anyone have any experience with either or both for major and minor for this bullet.

I appreciate the help in advance. Thanks guys,

EW

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Published data with WSF and an XTP is 5.8gr max for a bit over 1,000fps and very close to SAAMI MAP pressure. I've loaded the 175/180gr cast TC bullet quite a bit in .40 and 10mm (latter my favorite). My load for the .40 is 5.7gr WSF at 1.125 OAL for 960fps in a Commander 1911. I used to cast it using the Lee mold, but have just become too busy and I use Missouri Bullet's 180gr TC currently.

6.0gr WSF with a cast 175/180gr is my 10mm load. I would not load that in .40 at the 1.125 OAL, maybe the longer 1.180 for the 1911/2011s.

Sorry I can't help out with a minor load. I've never loaded .40 Minor. I like Winchester powder and with that in mind, the next fastest powder in that line would be WST and I think it would serve you well for a Minor load.

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Since you mentioned .45, I use 6.0gr WSF with a 200gr LSWC (1.250), 230gr TC (1.185), and 230gr plated (1.250). The heavies are around 850 and the SWC is a bit slower.

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Mine's not with WSF, but its faster brother, WST.

4.8 grains at 1.16" makes major easily in my 5" M&P, doesn't melt bullet bases like Titegroup and has little muzzle flip/flash/blast.

I cast and shoot buckets of 'em.

Mark

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Guys,

I really appreciate the input. Freakshow, that is some awesome information there I have been looking for a while and could never find it. I have thought about dialing back my 200 gr. LWSC to 6.0 or 6.1, because I am a little on the hot side of the power factor. Right now I have WAY more than enough cushion in case I get chrono'ed. So I will give that 6.0 a try and see how that runs. Thanks again for the post!

EW

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Guys,

I really appreciate the input. Freakshow, that is some awesome information there I have been looking for a while and could never find it. I have thought about dialing back my 200 gr. LWSC to 6.0 or 6.1, because I am a little on the hot side of the power factor. Right now I have WAY more than enough cushion in case I get chrono'ed. So I will give that 6.0 a try and see how that runs. Thanks again for the post!

EW

Try it. I used the 6.0gr WSF load with the 230gr bullets and decided to cast and load some 200gr LSWCs and try it over that same load. I was impressed with the holes in the target so I never bothered to work the load up. In fact, the 8 years I've been a handloader, I've never loaded the 200gr LSWC .45 ACP with any other load than 6.0gr WSF.

Freakshow, do you think that load for the 175 fr 40 would change much in a glock?I have a Storm Lake barrel in it for my G-35. I know the Glock's like their ammo just a tick longer than their counterparts.

Know for a fact it won't. That .40 load is what I use with cast and plated for both retail customers and LE agencies that I reload training ammo for. I've never had negative feedback about the OAL with regard to function in a Glock. I always advise to load to the longest OAL that feeds from the magazine, but I am a commercial reloader making ammo for many guns. I pick one OAL that will feed in anything and function in anything. 9mm and .40 get loaded to 1.125" OAL unless it's my custom 9mm Major or .40 Long.

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My load for mu Glock 24 was a 185 Precision bullet over 5.7-5.8 grains of WSF. I loaded their length to 1.135+. I have been shooting an STI for a while now but I still have the G24 and three or four hundred loaded rounds.

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Thank you Freakshow. I appreciate the response. It looks like I will be using that load to get started. Biloxi is loading about the same thing with just a fraction longer. Thanks again! i knew I would be able to find an answer on Enos. It seems like this is about the best place to find reliable info. Be safe guys.

EW

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