I think Im a turn , draw and shoot retard?

[ger]

So the avg times I've been laying down have been about 1.45, now understand this is having never thought about reading any articles on this matter so I figured I was pretty good...then I decide to use this awesome resource to read about how quick el pres is being done, as a classifier stage is coming up soon.

WOW , I read the threads, I watch the videos and then I go dryfire and then the range to shoot, excited about this whole turn draw thing as its been written here that 1.25 should be easy and sub 1 sec even possible.

In dry fire I was getting to what I thought was 1 sec easy but back at live fire I see I'm still 1.4's but after some dedication and about 200 rds I am seeing its possible, with 1.3's being my new avg, 1.2's rarely and one time I hit a 1.08 and I thought for sure I missed the target (I did not, but I think it was luck),

So now the reason I have put all this to paper, for those of you who are making this turn and draw, fire, HIT! what really is the avg time cold run? is 1.3's respectable or should any self respectred shooter be at 1 sec?

Bio: A class limited, 4 years in the sport

Edited September 14, 2013 by ger

[Hi-Power Jack]

Ted Puentes taught me that 1.25 second draw and fire is a good time.

Sounds GREAT for a turn and draw.

[ger]

Ok so i'm gonna strive for 1 sec and know that 1.25 is in the game.....

[Chris iliff]

Mine has never been exceptional. Just did a classifier and my hands relaxed turn and draw was 1.43. Granted I've gone through many different ways to do it in the last ten years and finally have settled on one way. I just have not grooved it in.

I know a good solid 1.30 to an A at ten yards ain't gonna stop you from making GM. Probably could be slower and still do it.

Here is a T/D secret..................keep the gun as close to the body as possible during the TURN. If you extend during the TURN you are gonna get some site wobble at the end of turn on the target. This is a time killer. Instead, as you are turning keep the gun closer and push out at the end of turn, site doesn't wobble as much and for me its usually a couple ticks quicker. Ymmv.

[ger]

will store that away thanks!

[Sarge]

And snap your head before your shoulders. Got that from Steve Andersons book. Made a huge difference.

[ger]

So what did I learn today:

1) having 24 hours to grasp this info and do dry fire for 20 min the night before does not make you delete previous retard turn style.

2) thinking about it on live fire to much does not help, it actually made me slower...it did not come natural, to much thinking about feet, head, gun to body.....lol

3) if you shoot fast and straight you can get your way through a decent el pres even with my 1.59 tard turn. The part I like is knowing that I have about .40 sec that I can get rid of and that would have given me a 4.8 sec time! And that it's within my grasp with lots of practice ahead to perfect this basic thing that somehow I decided at some point was not worth my time.

So fellow spin handicapped friends there is hope on the horizon :-)